My bike shat itself

[msalser1000]

Well I think I ****ered up the engine on the repsol today. Was riding high in the r's and she lost power and started making bad noises.

[Big Kahuna]

Say it isn't so!!! :(

[msalser1000]

was running 550 in ohio at full lean with 2nd pinned getting ready to shift to third. next thing i no it lost power and when you rev it quick it sounds like its coming apart. Im hoping just a cam chain tensinor. But with my luck engine is dicked. SO im gonna tear into it this week. Just s h i t t y luck at its finest!

[CTSmoto]

Hey let us know what you find. I had a customer with a similar problem on a 2004 1000RR. Dealer told him the valves were messed up. They supposedly fixed it but the bike still doesn't run right.

Mike

[msalser1000]

might be some high-end parts for sale soon

[Repsol01]

How many miles did you have on your bike before this happened?

[msalser1000]

just rolled 4500. The **** of it is its two months out of warranty. this has not been my year with bikes, I totalled a 999 in october and now my repsol takes a dump on me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:confused:

[Repsol01]

I would take it to Honda. If you know a good certified Honda rep He should still be able to get it covered through the area Honda rep. Good Luck and keep us informed on what the cause was.

[msalser1000]

Tried that route when I blew my 900 rr a few years ago. not real impressed with honda service. It was my fault it blew but I have owned 10 new honda's.

[msalser1000]

Man You guys are qick with deleting, If i hadnt checked my email I would have never saw the nice little post left for me. Oh well all i can say is when you ride them hard they break sometimes. Oh well **** happens. :D

[silvercbr]

Man You guys are qick with deleting, If i hadnt checked my email I would have never saw the nice little post left for me. Oh well all i can say is when you ride them hard they break sometimes. Oh well **** happens. :D

My dealer sells extended Honda warranties at cost, so I will be picking up a 5 year extended before my original warranty is up for around $300. A kid bought a bike from them with an extended warranty, a 2000 929, and blew the motor. Then ended up replacing the entire motor for him. My dealer does a great job with service after the sale, I am lucky to have such a great dealer in my area.

[Thrasher]

I had 4 extra years added on when I bought the bike for an extra $360.00, I figure I will never need it as its a honda but what the heck so I have a total of 5 years.

[silvercbr]

I had 4 extra years added on when I bought the bike for an extra $360.00, I figure I will never need it as its a honda but what the heck so I have a total of 5 years.

If you blow out a stator or clutch, it just paid for itself. That is the way I am thinking. Just a little peace of mind, but hey, it's a Honda.

[msalser1000]

Dude they all break i one way or another, When you run them hard the break. Ive had good luck with my 954 and my rc51 but this time it caught up with me. So I just orderd wiseco 13:1 pistons and Im gonna either try and buy Ten Kate racing cams or find a company that will custom grrind them for what i want and go from there, 200 horse at the rear wheel here i come!

[msalser1000]

Before I go any farther let me just say before AssHat interjects something I pulled the motor off my bike today and broke into it. Got the valve cover off and the side covers. We will see what failed. Way I see it is **** happens. If your going to run your suck you can have the balls to post it in the forums. Dont send pms running your mouth. I have said everything in an open forum so if your going to say it say where every one can see you igorance about the sport and bikes in general. rember I am the one who at least knows how much pressure is im my tires.:eek:

[msalser1000]

haahhaaaa
Life is a bitch huh?
Im glad i get the pleasure of saying ...i hope you ****ed your bike you moron!
Your a douchbag and glad you didnt maintain your bike ***!
This is megatron and my bike was easy to fix..i did it myself ...all i had to do is clean my plugs.
sounds like you ****ed your bike up.
guess you dont know as much as you thought you did huh?
well hope on your next bike it isnt a limited edition.
just stoped by to say **** you and have a ****y day homo!
|-_-| MEGATRON

This was his pm he sent!

[Thrasher]

:D Just my Humble opinion someone is a dickhead maybe Megatron , I dont know because I dont know the history just let it be known You have my support at least in hopes that your bike lives again better than ever

[msalser1000]

He was on the fireblade.org being bilergint to other members so we grilled him about his bike knowledge and he started acting like this.

[Thrasher]

I saw his earlier post and kinda said ban him but then it went private and I was told there was a history , So I just dont want people act like idiots here its nice just to share and help each other... I went through the same nonsense at the Durango owners forum years ago and talk about a bunch of idiots they acted like the forum was a church with children looking over our shoulders so we couldnt even say crap. Yet the adults would go off on each " MY COLORS BETTER THAN YOURS" Asshats for sure:rolleyes:

[msalser1000]

Well Im not gonna get wrapped up in it with him again. I have delt with enough squids. Its just ive saw to many people on bike forums that dont even know how to take body work off their bike. And to boot they think they are Matt Maldin.

[MEGA]

my bad, but you had that coming to you..
i really hope your repsol gets revived ...
i just felt like you deserved a taste of your own medecine.
when someone is asking for help and all they want is useful knowledge to figure out a problem....and meets someone like you who just tried to make it a newbie bash....wasnt cool.
i did learn many things from that mishap about my bike...
Hope you get your bike running.


P.s my bike is running awsome.:D
Love,
|-_-| MegaTron

[msalser1000]

Dude we were tring to help you, but everytime we asked you a questoin you come back with a A clueless answer then got ****ty definsive about it. Man Ill help anybody but if you have no clue what someone is talking about when they try and help then you get nasty what do you expect. I have had several of these bikes saw alot of people get real hurt from them. There isnt a thing i havent done to one of these machines. Cool out with the attitude you might get some real working knowledge of these bikes. Its kinda like going to the racetrack for the first time and telling everyone there you are the fastest guy there, you gonna get shown different. I would far rather get along than argue. Being humble and pleasant goes alot farther than calling people queer and running your suck being a smartass.

[Big Kahuna]

I hope now that you both got this out in the open we can get through this and get back to helping out each other and refrain from any name calling.

Forums like these are a funny thing. It is hard to convey your true attitude, demeanor and meaning and often they are misinterpreted by those reading them. Trust me, I've been "misinterpreted" many times on other forums and have been badge a trouble maker and squid. :)

I'm hoping that we can get through this without any more animosity and get back to the way this board truly operates. Sharing insight and info on one for the sweetest bikes ever built. :)

So msalser1000, what's the verdict on the bike? Is it still not running right?

[msalser1000]

Motor is off the bike and starting to be torn down. Order a set of wiseco 13:1 pistons and looking for cams.

[Cue]

Motor is off the bike and starting to be torn down. Order a set of wiseco 13:1 pistons and looking for cams.

FYI- I prefer JEs to Wiseco. If you send your OEM Honda Rings to JE they will custum cut their standard bore 13.5:1 pistons to accept the OEM Honda rings. Erion was selling a Ten Kate replica cam, but not anymore. Best cam is the HRC JSB cam. It will give you max gains with minimal valve abuse. The HRC wsb cam is too agressive and you will be doing tear downs way too often for street use. While your at it grind the top humps of the heads (do not enlarge the ports) clean everything up in there, install some HRC intake valve springs (oem exhaust springs are fine), get a HRC ECU, wire a fan switch and you have a 185hp monster that is streetable.

[diel11]

This is what I got for mine. You can also check with Kent Cams or Piper, both in the UK, they have very good grinds and as long as you don't go WSBK they can usually regrind for abour 165 pounds. Some of the stuff on the pics is slightly used, still in great condition. The pistons are hrc clones that use oem rings, the kit is no longer made. Cams are hrc, so are valves, cam chain tensioner, springs, cam sprockets, etc. I've built 3 motors with the JE pistons with oem rings and with very mild cams I've seen 180-185rwhp. One thing, the specs on the JEs I've used are different than the ones from some other guys at 1000rr.net. I've always milled the cylinders on top of installing the high comp pistons. Have not done the crankcase modifications on those motors but will on mine (kinda time consuming).

Good luck with the build.

[msalser1000]

The motor is off and tore in to . The verdict spun bearing, I do beleave I overreved the engine and the bearing let go.

[diel11]

That stinks...How's the crank?

[Big Kahuna]

The motor is off and tore in to . The verdict spun bearing, I do beleave I overreved the engine and the bearing let go.Dude, that's just wrong. Seeing a Repsol all naked like that. :(

[msalser1000]

Havent got it out yet hopefully good.

[msalser1000]

Got the head off tonight everything looks ok in the head.

How much did the kent cams run? where are you getting your hrc parts? With the JE pistons and honda rings do you need to deglaze the cylinders?

Kent offers two cams wich ine to go with? What hump in head needs cleaned up?

[diel11]

Got the head off tonight everything looks ok in the head.

How much did the kent cams run? where are you getting your hrc parts? With the JE pistons and honda rings do you need to deglaze the cylinders?

Kent offers two cams wich ine to go with? What hump in head needs cleaned up?

So did the piston smack the head any? Hopefully the valves are not bent either, should be able to see impact points on the piston if any.

Kent Cams are about 165 pounds for the regrinds, and you have to send yours in. Use the HON28. The lift is close to the 2006 stock cams but a little more duration. Something else you can do is use a set of 2006 stock cams, just make sure you upgrade your springs. Might be able to get those a little cheaper. I got a set here but still doing research with them. Not sure how soon you'll need them. The stock 2006 cams are the same as the 04/05 hrc power up kit. My HRC parts come from a friend that does work for a WSBK team, we trade info and parts. Problem is maintenance intervals. I just bought a 06 motor to put all these parts in. Will leave the 05 motor that came with the bike alone.

With any new pistons and rings you will have to at least deglaze. These motors have a design flaw with the pistons. When you remove them from the cylinders you will see what I am talking about. I haven't had to replate any of the motors I've built but you will see the metal transfer on the bore.

About the hump, when you look in the port, before the valve guide you will see some extra metal there, a little "hump". Just match that area to the rest of the port, get rid of the casting marks and then use emery cloth on the whole port. Also, make sure the valve seat is matched to the port, no ridges.

One more thing. If you're going to do the pistons, might as well mill the cylinders .2mm. If you want more details on this let me know, as you have to measure squish and ptv.

[msalser1000]

If the cams are that close then Ill just score a set of 06 cams. What was so special about using the honda rings? why not use the rings that come with the Je pistons? No where around here where i can get the head miled.

[msalser1000]

No damage to the head thank god just a bearing let go!

[diel11]

The Kent cams are going to have a little more duration. A stock 06 intake cam has 9.1mm valve lift and 244 degrees duration. The Kent Cam HON28 has 8.94mm of valve lift but 252 degrees duration. Exhaust stock 8.4mm/230 degrees, kent exhaust 8.4mm/246 degrees. My personal opinion, I would run the stock 06 cams first since you should be able to get some on ebay pretty cheap, and if you want something better later, put them up for sale and get something from Kent or Web.

JE rings are notorious for being a little too hard on bores (nikasil). OEM rings, especially Honda's, are extremely good. My HRC clone pistons are cut to take OEM rings, which is what I want. It used to be that OEM rings sucked, so replacing them with aftermarket was a good thing. Not anymore. You could get HRC pistons with their rings, but a set of their rings are about $400, plus the price of pistons. OEM will save you from having to replate your cylinders and minimize maintenance.

[diel11]

Oh yeah, not milling the head, milling the cylinders. Ideally you want to mill the head .2mm and the cylinders .2mm and then set your squish with a HRC head gasket. Again, if you do not know how to measure squish and ptv, I wouldn't mess with it. You don't have to do this, but it will really wake up the bike. And I haven't had any problems with detonation at all. If you mill the head too much, you boost compression but sometimes mess up the flame propagation. If you mill the cylinders, you force the charge closer to the spark plug by eliminating squish space. This in turn makes for a more efficient burn, which equals hp. And a more efficient burn also equals no detonation. Any machine shop that does motor work will be able to help you. You can ask local bike or car performance shops who does their machine work. If you can't find anyone, use Millenium Technologies. A little expensive but very good at what they do.

[msalser1000]

About what do the charge to cut their pistons for the honda rings? Im giong to assume when they speak of deglazing they mean hoaning the cylinders. I greatly appreciate the help by the way!

[diel11]

About what do the charge to cut their pistons for the honda rings? Im giong to assume when they speak of deglazing they mean hoaning the cylinders. I greatly appreciate the help by the way!

I have no idea. I order a custom piston right off the bat and they already know what I need. You can always call them and tell them what you want, they've done plenty of these and should have them in the computer. And yes, just a light hone on the cylinders. I use an aluminum oxide ball hone with honing oil and do about 20 passes. The main thing I want to see other than the cross hatch pattern is the stock piston material on the bore gone. Let me know if you need anything else.

[msalser1000]

Im going to call them this week, get them coming. Went down and priced cams and valve springs, not to hateful. Hope to have it back to gether soon.

[msalser1000]

Never thought to ask but what am i going to have to do for a spark plug now, Im sure i going to have to go with a different heat range on the plug?

[diel11]

Have you decided how much compression you're going to run? If you decide to go with 13.5:1 or higher, you will benefit from getting ngk R0045Q-10 plugs. Only problem is they're hard to find and cost about $200-300.00. But yeah, if you run high compression, get plugs suited for that. If you ever wonder what $200-300 set of plugs look like, let me know and I'll take close up pics of mine.

[msalser1000]

yeah id like to see a 200 - 300 dollar set of spark plugs, that is insane!

[MeanMachine]

This is the plug.

http://www.ngk.com/more_info.asp?AAIA=&pid=3011

I am a firm beleiver in going with the best, but at $64.00 each, thats just plain stupid.

[diel11]

You don't have to get these but it would be a good idea to do some reseach on the dyno and the street to see which one to get.

[msalser1000]

Well after dealing with honda for three months now and getting told to bugger off half a dozen times, I have stared reciving parts for my bike. After taking engine apart the number one rod bearing had be spunt. Burnt the con rod and the crank so the crank is off to california to be repaired. I order the JE high compresion pistons ported and polished my head, ordered a new con rod, looking for a set of cams still summer is half way over and im going nuts! I told honda cusyomer service that my next bike would have 1098 on the side of it since they treated so well!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[TX Repsol]

My dealer sells extended Honda warranties at cost, so I will be picking up a 5 year extended before my original warranty is up for around $300.

I will have to look into that. Never had a problem with the first two RR's... but I plan to keep the Repsol forever and wouldn't mind a little extra peace of mind for the first few years.

[msalser1000]

I smoked the engine on my 99 from doing wheelies, but this bike has been babied. It just a tolerence issiue from the factory but what do you do?

[TX Repsol]

but what do you do?

Why, you rebuild it with better, stronger parts and make it go faster!!

[ZZGIXXER]

in my opinion....when a bike is going to go bad...it is going to be bad.

i just ran the hit the mark on my repsol....11000 miles. knocked on wood....have not had a problem with it. and believe me i do run my bike to triple digits. but i just keep changing my oil every 1800 miles and keep good preventive maintenance. i inspect my bike every 1800 miles from noises to doing detail on plastics. im going on my 4 set of tires.....

[msalser1000]

Well i bought bigger better parts. I change my oil every 1000 miles. This was just a screw up from the factory. But when it goes back together it will be fast as ****!