Me Rant???NO Never be afriad to say what is on your mind

[DavesRepsol]

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Just my :twocents:

This pretty much sets out my position on INVADERS. :D



NO to Invader driver’s licenses. Why? Because states like the Empire State should not be so scared of illegality, tolerate of criminality and wanting so for votes of any kind that they offer the driving privilege citizens have to work for to INVADERS.



NO to NO border fence. Why? If you really need to ask you are an idiot.



NO to free health care. Why? Because our health care system is eroding now. The millions, perhaps, billions we spend on Invaders is ridiculous. Medicate them, sedate them and send them back, by bus, air, or train to their home country will a bill to their embassy immediately. HILLARYCARE thinks giving free medical care to illegals is PROGRESSIVE. I think taking my tax money and giving it to INVADERS should be called theft by taking.



NO to citizenship to anyone who is just born on my soil from INVADERS. Send them all back to their native county by any means necessary.



NO to free attorneys. Why? Because we can not afford providing this RIGHT to our own citizen criminals much less criminals from other countries. No to appeals, bond and translaters. Why? Because I don’t want to pay for it at all.



NO to citizenship to the extended family of someone who gets citizenship just because they fill out a form that brings in people I have to feed, house & clothe.



NO to PUBLIC EDUCATION. Why? Tax dollars used for invaders should be seen as theft by taking. The cost to teach those who can not speak English is logically prohibitive.



Why is it so impossible to understand one simple concept?

“If we would stop giving INVADERS what their own countries refuse to provide INVADERS would go home or stay home to make their native country a better place to live. Welfare was a failure for our own citizens. It made them dependant on our government for all their needs without a care for costs or the need to do better for themselves. We are doing the same thing with INVADERS.”


This is my country.



And, because I make this statement

DOES NOT mean I'm against immigration!!!



YOU ARE WELCOME HERE IN MY COUNTRY.



Welcome to come through legally like my mother and father did years ago.

Get a sponsor to guarantee your support because I do not want to support you or your mother or your child!

Get a place to lay your head and pay for it with your money not mine!

Get a job not a criminal enterprise!

Live by OUR rules!

Pay YOUR taxes!

And

LEARN THE LANGUAGE LIKE OTHER

IMMIGRANTS HAVE IN THE PAST!!!



AND PLEASE DON'T DEMAND THAT WE HAND OVER OUR

LIFETIME SAVINGS OF SOCIAL SECURITY FUNDS TO YOU

TO MAKE UP FOR ''YOUR'' LACK OF FINANCIAL SECURITY”.




If you don't want to forward this for fear of offending someone,

then YOU'RE PART OF THE PROBLEM!


When will AMERICAN'S STOP giving away MY COUNTRY???



We've gone so far the other way ... bent over backwards not to

offend anyone. But it seems no one cares about the AMERICAN, like me,

that is being offended!


WAKE UP America !!!

[Jacobs Dad]

Actually working for a builder, the majority of our sub-contractors are hispanic. Here is what they do. The gov. gives them a fedral I.D# because they can not get a SS#, they give us a false fed id# and when the gov. catches on for them not paying taxes, they get a new # and new business name and keep going. They never pay taxes. That is wrong. I don't mind them here, but for us to pay for spanish speaking teachers in class to interpret for them is wrong. Hell, walk into any store or look at groceries being sold. Now everything is in spanish and english. Live here fine, but abide by the rules!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[marccbr]

Sounds like typical Arian Nation ideology, the person that wrote that must be a founding member. Face it the only real natives here are the Indians everyone else is a foreigner.

[DavesRepsol]

Sounds like typical Arian Nation ideology, the person that wrote that must be a founding member. Face it the only real natives here are the Indians everyone else is a foreigner.

That is a good point, unfortunately only the strong survive and it looks like to me that the illegal mexican population is stronger than anyone because we (Legal Citizen's) are letting them push us around quite a bit.

[Hondaman69]

That is a good point, unfortunately only the strong survive and it looks like to me that the illegal mexican population is stronger than anyone because we (Legal Citizen's) are letting them push us around quite a bit.

I agree with you dave. we are getting outnumbered by the illegals every day. we should go back to the way things were when they had to have a sponsor to come to america and get a job and become a citizen. and you dont have to be a neo natzi to see that this is a problem and it is hurting us. of course that is my opinion and I am entitled to it since I fight for this country in the military and everyone else can have their opinion too.

[TX Repsol]

Sounds like typical Arian Nation ideology, the person that wrote that must be a founding member. Face it the only real natives here are the Indians everyone else is a foreigner.

Sounds like the typical left-wing rebuttal.

Yeah, we're all immigrants. But you know what makes me different? I PAY TAXES!!! Countless times! I pay tax when I earn my money, when I save my money, when I pull my money out of savings, and when I spend that money!

All so they can come over and have free healthcare, free schooling, free food stamps, free college grants, free section 8 housing, and soon-to-be free retirement funds via the already suffering Social Security fund which they DID NOT and never will help pay for.

Our country is too damn weak when it comes to this stuff. It's amazing to me that we're the major superpower.

I've got to stop there because this thread could get ugly. It's hard to debate this stuff on paper as you can't read voice tones. I don't want to come off as a *****, so I'm stopping. :rolleyes:

[SIXDOG]

Wow, this can get ugly....kind of like a place called Wounded Knee!

[Thrasher]

Just Pay Taxs , Pay your own way, The ones that dont follow the rules should be put out and the ones that do should get to stay, We are all Immigrants except for the poor Indians we Murdered.:mad:, But at least their makeing some good money on the Casinos too bad it didnt happen earlier:D

[The Doctor]

Don't get me going on this subject. Spent the last 4 years cutting through red tape and still have a year to go. The cost $20k plus for lawyer and filing fee's. paid all my Taxes and the wife still ain't allowed to work until her work permit arrives.
So ye I get a little pi**ed off when people walk in the illegal way, get married and 2 years later...GREENCARD......:evilgrin:

Borofc

[Thrasher]

Hey my wife is French She had to be a nanny in Westwood, Then pay her Lawyer $8K, What a bunch of Horse****, And she still dosent make enough money to satisfy my Ridicilus habits, OK did I spell that wrong, . Oh by the Way I just bought her a 05 Fire engine Red Audi TT with only 25K on the clock man that car is a rocket. Just gotta be carefull not to bottom it out.:evilgrin:

[hondahoon]

Hey my wife is French She had to be a nanny in Westwood, Then pay her Lawyer $8K, What a bunch of Horse****, And she still dosent make enough money to satisfy my Ridicilus habits, OK did I spell that wrong, . Oh by the Way I just bought her a 05 Fire engine Red Audi TT with only 25K on the clock man that car is a rocket. Just gotta be carefull not to bottom it out.:evilgrin:

no corruption in the police force is there mate? :p:p:p:p:p:p:p:p:p

[Thrasher]

Corruption I dont see no Corrupption. Let me know were , I think perhaps I'm not the Letter of the law kinda guy, remember we talked about that I've given more breaks to people then Tickets and thats a fact.:confused2:

[hondahoon]

Corruption I dont see no Corrupption. Let me know were , I think perhaps I'm not the Letter of the law kinda guy, remember we talked about that I've given more breaks to people then Tickets and thats a fact.:confused2:

hahhahhaa i just wish there were more coppers lke you over here

HH

[TX Repsol]

and the wife still ain't allowed to work until her work permit arrives.

Hey my wife is French She had to be a nanny in Westwood, Then pay her Lawyer $8K, What a bunch of Horse****,

From my very limited knowledge of your situations, both of your stories are very different than the people I and DavesRepsol are talking about. The people that tick me off are the ones that come over to work, take advantage of the system, pay no taxes, and never have any plans of becoming a legal citizen and carrying their portion of the burden.

[DavesRepsol]

There is actually a written sign outside the border of mexico that says to come to gainesville ga for work..............:weirdface::weirdface:

[SIXDOG]

Wow, while I understand the issues lets not forget that there are also people from the country from the north and the asian countries as well, lets not mention some eastern european countries.....I find some of the comments from you guys very disturbing especially considering I am hispanic. I wonder what would be said if the majority of the illegals were not hispanic.

[LawnDart]

hmm interesting motorcycle thread
I used to live in LA county, there are more hispanic people there than all the other races combined. I live in Tucson now home to many many many many many undocumented workers or illegal aliens or whatever you want to call em. I don't consider myself a bigot or racist and will probably have hispanic children myself someday if things work out with the little lady I have been with for the last 4 years lol.

The problem isn't that the immigrants want to work or will do any job for really cheap. It's more that they pay no taxes, get free schooling for the kiddies and community college for themselves if wanted (rare but happens), and get free health care even though we don't have socialized medicine yet. Every time one of them comes in after causing an accident in traffic, getting injured on the job they don't have (so no work comp insurance), or running from the police after commiting crimes, and border patrol chase injuries - they get free care from us at the hospital. How often could this kind of stuff happen you ask? ummm everyday mostly. Our hospital bleeds money for care given to people that have no intention of paying ever and that don't have access to insurance programs that would help them pay - not that they would want to buy insurance, where is the insentive when everything is free if you need it. Who pays for it? I do in lower wages and benifits. And you do in my haveing to work with older more out dated equipment because we can't afford new stuff as often as we should be able to and increased waiting times because we can't afford more staff at a reasonable wage.

The people that use their labor are the ones causing the problem and are the real criminals. If anyone is punished it needs to be the scum bags that hire illegal workers. I have hired many people to work in restaurants and in the hospital over the last 15 years and never once did any of them turn out to be illegal (many hispanic but all citizens). Even if you gave them a pass once I don't believe you could be tricked time and time again into hiring a guy that you pay cash money to for work at the end of the day and hold no taxes from. The criminals are the americans supporting the use of illegal labor which drives demand for more people to want to come here knowing they will find work for some asshat and get paid cash.

Anyone who argues how good they are for the ecconomy of the US is special. They are very good for the ecconomy of their own failing, non caring, poor countries and corrupt governments though and often import more money to them than actual business in said contries do.

Bueno suerte fixing this one amigos, esta es chingado I think is how it is said.

[DavesRepsol]

I have no problem with "mexican's" I THINK EVERYONE HERE IS MISSING THE BIG POINT "ILLEGAL" is the key word, and we do nothing about it. Just like speeding is ILLEGAL we have to pay the price if we are caught. But where I live "Illegal" Aliens" be it whatever nationality they are, are standing on every street corner clogging up the whole area looking to work Illegally, they are not in hiding afraid that because they are "illegal" there will be consequences to pay, They dont care............and obviously neither does the legal citizens or we would do something about it........Illegal aliens ARE not taking our jobs away, they ARE taking jobs for less money than your average Legal Citizen who pay's tax's and has legal dependants to support. I am not racist at all, I hate all illegal's equally that are abusing our way of life.

[TX Repsol]

I have no problem with "mexican's" I THINK EVERYONE HERE IS MISSING THE BIG POINT "ILLEGAL" is the key word, and we do nothing about it...... I am not racist at all, I hate all illegal's equally that are abusing our way of life.

Ditto. The word Mexican was not said once in my posts above.

[SIXDOG]

The problem here is two fold.....basically I read some generalizing about illegals coming and taking advantage of everything...not all illegals are doing this. Some do want a better life for themselfs and there loved ones. Kind of like how everyones elses relatives wanted when they came here. Granted, they came here legal but some of them "took" advantage of our systems back then as well.

I too get angry at people flying the Mexican flag and having protest but would you feel the same if you saw an Italian flag or the union jack?

The other side is as lawn dart stated, the people that make it easy for illegals to work here. This problem was created by both sides, not just one. Heck, just go try and but some land in Mexico or get a drivers license and see what happens. I believe TXREPSOL said "left wing" response to someones statement....I agree.

Now, that's it for me....I come here not for politics but for Repsol stuff...

Long live apple pie, John Wayne and Mulholland Highway!!!!!

[Thrasher]

Hey TX I'm with ya on this it just sucks that some people just walk into our country with very little to offer and others like my wife who has a PHD in Clinical Physicolgy has to go through a bunch of red tape Or HORSE****Z as I like to call it:eek:

[DavesRepsol]

Hey TX I'm with ya on this it just sucks that some people just walk into our country with very little to offer and others like my wife who has a PHD in Clinical Physicolgy has to go through a bunch of red tape Or HORSE****Z as I like to call it:eek:

:+1:I totally agree with you an TX. A few bad apples spoil it for the bunch. I hate to see homeless "legal" citizens living on the streets in atlanta, We need to be helping these people more than the "illegal" ones. This thread seems to be topic for conversation quite a bit on a daily basis recently not only in the news but locally in general conversation. I just question how long it will be before "legal" citizens wake up, stand together and do something about it. Think about it hard the next time YOU as a hard working tax paying citizen has to wait and wait in an emergency room for your child to receive medical attention because they are overcrowded helping the illegal ones in front of you, Mostly I hate too see how pushy and rude most all of the "illegals" are that are in my area, If you are here illegally you should at least kiss my ass a little bit, not come into my country like you own the place pushing me aside..... Any given day you can find 50-80 Illegal's standing beside the road not 1 mile from my office and every day there are the BIG FAT money hungry contractors pulling up in their crew cab 50,000 dollar trucks loading them in for a days work. Like it has already been said the fault is on both sides, If we did not cater to them they would not be here. I could go on-and-on about this subject, it really strikes a nerve with me. There is POWER in numbers people, if our Government is going to allow this to happen then I say it is time for us as a nation to come together on this problem and get something done about it.

WAKE UP MY FELLOW CITIZENS

OK, guys I am done talking about this subject, I just felt it was a very important to share my views on this subject, and here on-line is as good a place as any to start.

[O.A. for life]

Hey, I totally agree! This isnt the 70s or 80s this is 2007 and our economy right now is crap and getting worse! And that huge chunk we pay to the government seems to be going to people that live here illegal. With how it has escalated in the last ten years. . . what do the next ten hold in store if it continues unchecked? This is a serious problem! It has been a serious problem in the southern states for more then a decade but now its everywhere. If we sit back and not do anything what do you think will happen? I already have no hope of any social security. . . what else are we going to loose? Land, jobs, higher taxes to compensate, public schools, ect.

[Thrasher]

No Kidding I drive by a Veterens Hospital almost everyday and some of those guys are out begging on the center median but hell they fought for us and I dont care if there gonna go buy a pint its just plan wrong, that some guy who fought for our freedom and rights maybe homeless or indigent or just plan need a drink, now I,m PISSED. We need to take care of our People, What about those poor bastards down in New Orleans where was the help when they needed it? And why is it we can spend Billions on the war but cant fight fires and save peoples homes and lives in good old CALIFORNIA. Not that theres anything wrong with the war I'm all for killing people who hate us for whatever reason especially when the they fly jets into our buildings. What I mean is take the fight to them and let our soldiers who are trained do the job rather then sitting here blaming ourselves for the worlds problems and waiting for them to attack again which they will do if given half a chance.:mad: Rant Temp over, Maybe, Blood Presure going through roof

[LawnDart]

I was leaving this one alone but then this came up in town today.

The illegals and their supporters here believe that they have the right to be here and do whatever they want - and then not have the authorities called to arrest or deport them. Bull**** - I am tired of this kind of crap here in town. Why don't they just protest for our rights to do what ever we want. They will cite you for smoking in public places in this crappy town but if your an illegal immigrant and bring pot to the public school that you have no right to be in you get a protest organized for you. Our country is getting screwed up.

http://www.azstarnet.com/metro/210386

the next article is opinion about the same thin (he has always been an idiot but reflects our towns values unfortunately)
http://www.azstarnet.com/metro/210385.php

[LawnDart]

lol @ this1
http://www.azstarnet.com/sn/crime/209530

[hondahoon]

& my 2c on the topic to you lot :evilgrin::evilgrin::evilgrin:

HH

[Nakkers]

& my 2c on the topic to you lot :evilgrin::evilgrin::evilgrin:

HH

Yeaaaaaah Baby :evilgrin:

[DonnasRepsol]

& my 2c on the topic to you lot :evilgrin::evilgrin::evilgrin:

HH

LOL.......I like that
:D:D

[hondahoon]

LOL.......I like that
:D:D

ahh but there is room in my pants for you sweetie ;)

HH

[Jacobs Dad]

ahh but there is room in my pants for you sweetie ;)

HH

Are you sure, thought you stuffed them so people would'nt know that you squat when you pee. :evilgrin:

[DavesRepsol]

Are you sure, thought you stuffed them so people would'nt know that you squat when you pee. :evilgrin:

Ouch, HH I think JD pegged you on that one, and to think I thought he ment that is weewee was so small that there was that much room in there.....:D:D:evilgrin::evilgrin:

[hondahoon]

Are you sure, thought you stuffed them so people would'nt know that you squat when you pee. :evilgrin:

you bitch.. that was a good comeback.. didnt know you had it in you :D:D:D

HH

[DavesRepsol]

I found out where HH keep his underwear.:eek::eek::eek:

[Jacobs Dad]

you bitch.. that was a good comeback.. didnt know you had it in you :D:D:D

HH

I think you have me confused with your Momma. Isn't that what you tell her after sex? :evilgrin:

[O.A. for life]

Your all out of control! :haha: