Setting rules for our contests?

[cowboyadam]

If no one else is gonna say anything I guess I will... I think we need to set rules on entering the giveaways. This is crazy, first post, no intro, just straight for the free stuff. Ive been a member here a while, donated to the site and have both learned from and helped others.

This place is going to be full greedy non-Repsol owning people in no time. Maybe Im wrong but I hate to see good people get taken advantage of. Sorry for the rant. Hope someone else sees where Im going with this.

[Big Kahuna]

Adam has brought up a very important subject. How do you all think we should handle new members and our contests. The site is growing everyday maybe it's time we set some rules as to who can enter the contests.

[Hondaman69]

Adam has brought up a very important subject. How do you all think we should handle new members and our contests. The site is growing everyday maybe it's time we set some rules as to who can enter the contests.

BK I am a fairly new member of this site and I do not have a Repsol yet, but I can understand about setting some rules for the giveaways. Since I do not have a bike yet I didnt enter in this months giveaway because I didnt want to win something that I will not be able to use right now considering that thre are bikers out there that could use this prize. How bout this idea. If you are a member of this forum and do not own bike you can only sign up for clothing, hats, backpackpack, etc. giveaways. Now if you are a member of this forum and do own a bike you can sign up for any giveaway. Like I said I am new to this forum and definately do not want to cause any trouble by signing up for a contest that I should not be allowed to sign up for. However this site is great and I cant wait to get my Repsol soon so whatever you decide I will still be a member of this glorious site. If I have offended any long term members here by voicing my opinion I apologize but like I said above this is just my opinion.

:D:D:D:D

[tribaltim]

Yea expecially for those non repsol riders. O' wait a minute I was one of the first ever members and I don't have a repsol.

[hondahoon]

BK

i would suggest

1) minimum of 2mths membership
2) min of 25 posts
3) winners of any comps on the forum not entitled to enter another for 30days from announcement of their win

HH

[Repsol Robert]

Rules? We don' need no stinkin' rules!!!! Add heavy accent...

[1eyebrother]

We need to have some sort of rule so we dont have everyone entering and not being a part of this great forum....hit and run is what I would call them....I even didnt enter the new contest for this month...I would love to win but all I plan on doing is keeping the bike mostly stock..maybe a pipe but that is it.....I would rather have someone win it that really wants it....

[cowboyadam]

Yea expecially for those non repsol riders. O' wait a minute I was one of the first ever members and I don't have a repsol.


But you do have a 1000rr and are a regular active member. Im talking about the people that just

sign up to win stuff and thats all they do. No posts, no pics. And again I agree with HH.

[Repsol47]

I say 788 minimum posts to enter...well, well, what do you know...I just made the minimum:p

[Thrasher]

I agree with HH on Point 1 and 2. Cant support Point 3, This is Vegas Baby:D

[1eyebrother]

I agree 100% with HH....

[JGrepsol]

If no one else is gonna say anything I guess I will... I think we need to set rules on entering the giveaways. This is crazy, first post, no intro, just straight for the free stuff. Ive been a member here a while, donated to the site and have both learned from and helped others.

This place is going to be full greedy non-Repsol owning people in no time. Maybe Im wrong but I hate to see good people get taken advantage of. Sorry for the rant. Hope someone else sees where Im going with this.

If you would like for me to withdrawl from the contest I am ok with that. I just signed up for this forum due to the fact that I have been a huge fan of Repsol's since the replica came out. I just bought my 05 Repsol a couple of weeks ago and I proud/excited to have it in my garage. Before that I have owned only Honda's. I had the Smokin Joes Replica when it came out in 96. I raced motocross and only owned Honda's cr 250's then as well. You make it extremely easy to want to be a part of this site (that is sarcasm cowboyadam). I emailed BK on a private message to ask about his coastal trip. I looked at his pictures and smiled at enjoyment it must have been. I look in my garage everyday and smile that I finally found and have the exact bike that I have wanted for some time. I am joining this forum to introduce myself, get ideas, info from other riders, share the enjoyment of owning a repsol and utmost...being on two wheels. Before you introduced yourself, you are already assuming a negative aspect, win and split. Thanks for the welcoming. If you have any questions for me you are free to ask, and I will answer. As far as greedy non-repsol owning free loader...You have put me into the wrong catagory.
Jeronimo

[Thrasher]

Well since you put it that way I say LET HIM STAY!, Hes had a bunch of Hondas and now hes got a Repsol . Rules cant be applied Retroactivley. Law of The Land:D

[hondahoon]

If you would like for me to withdrawl from the contest I am ok with that. I just signed up for this forum due to the fact that I have been a huge fan of Repsol's since the replica came out. I just bought my 05 Repsol a couple of weeks ago and I proud/excited to have it in my garage. Before that I have owned only Honda's. I had the Smokin Joes Replica when it came out in 96. I raced motocross and only owned Honda's cr 250's then as well. You make it extremely easy to want to be a part of this site (that is sarcasm cowboyadam). I emailed BK on a private message to ask about his coastal trip. I looked at his pictures and smiled at enjoyment it must have been. I look in my garage everyday and smile that I finally found and have the exact bike that I have wanted for some time. I am joining this forum to introduce myself, get ideas, info from other riders, share the enjoyment of owning a repsol and utmost...being on two wheels. Before you introduced yourself, you are already assuming a negative aspect, win and split. Thanks for the welcoming. If you have any questions for me you are free to ask, and I will answer. As far as greedy non-repsol owning free loader...You have put me into the wrong catagory.
Jeronimo


mate...
Adam wasnt singling you out & pointin his boner at you...
it was a general statement which a few of us long standing members have discussed in private a few times
dont take it personally as we have seen this site grow rather rapidly in a very short time & it is quite annoying when a noob is stright in & signing up for freebies then we hear nothing else from them

HH

[cowboyadam]

mate...
Adam wasnt singling you out & pointin his boner at you...
it was a general statement which a few of us long standing members have discussed in private a few times
dont take it personally as we have seen this site grow rather rapidly in a very short time & it is quite annoying when a noob is stright in & signing up for freebies then we hear nothing else from them

HH

LMAO!!

[Big Kahuna]

mate...
Adam wasnt singling you out & pointin his boner at you...
it was a general statement which a few of us long standing members have discussed in private a few times
dont take it personally as we have seen this site grow rather rapidly in a very short time & it is quite annoying when a noob is stright in & signing up for freebies then we hear nothing else from them

HH:+1: HH!!!

We are definitely not singling anyone out, but JGrepsol is a perfect example of why some rules would hurt true new members to the site. Remember, most of us (;)) have been new members to the site at one time. What if you were not allowed to enter a contest on the sole reason that you just found the site.

Maybe we should enforce a few other requirements, maybe a reasonable post count that must be reached by the close of the contest, you must have an avatar uploaded, have introduced yourself in the noob section and maybe even have uploaded some pics of your bike in the gallery.

We actually have a very high active member ratio here compared to other larger forums. I would like these contest to be fare to all true Repsol Forum members, but would honestly find it hard to see some of these great prizes got to a member with very little input to date.

[Thrasher]

Picture of the Bike is a good idea, perhaps with some other evidence.:confused2:

[JGrepsol]

I can agree with that. Thanks for the heads up.

[JGrepsol]

If your in LBC, Redondo is only 15 minutes away... when your in 6th.

[Jacobs Dad]

I say we let who ever enter, but then rig it to where the noobs are never put into the drawing. :evilgrin:

Hard to say what is really fair, just the politics of a growing site. Funny thing is, I see maybe 20-25 members who post on a regular basis.

[hondahoon]

rule 4 should be..

if you live in the USA you should be excluded from all competitions cause you can buy the gear cheap enough anyway :evilgrin::p:evilgrin::p

ohh & we need to hav the occasional comp where BK can enter cause otherwise hes going to feel left out

HH

[TX Repsol]

I agree with all of BK's last sentiments except for the post count. Everyone knows where that will lead. Lot's of +1's and other random two word posts to jack up the post count for eligibility.

I like the idea that the requirement for entering is being "active". Whether it's a newb with 5 posts or a postwhore like DavesRepsol. :p An avatar, an introduction thread, and a handful of legitimate posts should cover it.

The second question is: who polices it? Can't really expect BK to take full responsibility, but we don't want this to turn into a bunch of newb callouts either.

My spin on it - require more than a simple "yes" to enter the poll. For one of the contests, BK required a pm listing three stores local to the member that sell REPSOL products. This requires initiative and will probably reduce some of the entries from inactive members.

Hell, require members to post a picture of their bike in front of some neat landmark, post a picture of some specific part of their bike, post a picture with a sign with some word provided by BK, some sort of scavenger hunt, anything that requires a little effort to enter. Make us work for it - that alone will weed out the undedicated souls... :D

Maybe even a little Repsol Forum trivia? :eek:

EDIT: flame me if you want, but I agree with whoever posted it above - BK should be allowed to enter the contests. As long as he proves that he didn't enter his name 50 times! :p

[cowboyadam]

:iagree: I also see no reason BK cant join in the competition.

The posting pics in different places is a cool idea. Not gonna go so well here in the winter though.

Maybe I can get a pic by a snowman. :p

[hondahoon]

:iagree: I also see no reason BK cant join in the competition.

The posting pics in different places is a cool idea. Not gonna go so well here in the winter though.

Maybe I can get a pic by a snowman. :p

better watch out his snowmanmeat would melt in your mouth & dribble down your chin :p:D:evilgrin::p:D:evilgrin:

HH

[cowboyadam]

better watch out his snowmanmeat would melt in your mouth & dribble down your chin :p:D:evilgrin::p:D:evilgrin:

HH

Im guessing you are basing this on your experience with kangas?? :evilgrin: :rolleyes: :D

[SIXDOG]

How about having to post a picture of your bike ( REPSOL ) and have a 90 day " probation" peroid. Ohh, and BK should be included in the give away.

[Nakkers]

This is a hard problem to solve i can see everyones points, and i do agree with HH on a minimum post count , introduction and gallery photos and Bk should be in every draw, :mrt:

[Repsol47]

Im guessing you are basing this on your experience with kangas?? :evilgrin: :rolleyes: :D


:pound::pound::pound:

[hondahoon]

Im guessing you are basing this on your experience with kangas?? :evilgrin: :rolleyes: :D

the only time roos melt is when you have cooked them up & then they melt in our mouth prettyboi... :)

did you know aussies are the only nation to eat their national emblem???

HH

[Repsol47]

Have you ever tried Koala burgers.....or Dingo stew?

[hondahoon]

Have you ever tried Khola burgers.....or Dingo stew?

you get dingo in all the asian countries (well its dog but thats just a crosbreed of dingo) & mate.. koala bears are the most dangerous animal out there. they are also reffered to as drop bears... they drop on you from a tree & will tear you apart faster than a grizzly

HH

[Repsol47]

koala bears are the most dangerous animal out there. they are also reffered to as drop bears... they drop on you from a tree & will tear you apart faster than a grizzly

You big wuss...Id kick that foooker in his little furry koala nuts.
That there would put any critter down.

[Jacobs Dad]

I agree with all of BK's last sentiments except for the post count. Everyone knows where that will lead. Lot's of +1's and other random two word posts to jack up the post count for eligibility.

I like the idea that the requirement for entering is being "active". Whether it's a newb with 5 posts or a postwhore like DavesRepsol. :p An avatar, an introduction thread, and a handful of legitimate posts should cover it.

The second question is: who polices it? Can't really expect BK to take full responsibility, but we don't want this to turn into a bunch of newb callouts either.

My spin on it - require more than a simple "yes" to enter the poll. For one of the contests, BK required a pm listing three stores local to the member that sell REPSOL products. This requires initiative and will probably reduce some of the entries from inactive members.

Hell, require members to post a picture of their bike in front of some neat landmark, post a picture of some specific part of their bike, post a picture with a sign with some word provided by BK, some sort of scavenger hunt, anything that requires a little effort to enter. Make us work for it - that alone will weed out the undedicated souls... :D

Maybe even a little Repsol Forum trivia? :eek:

EDIT: flame me if you want, but I agree with whoever posted it above - BK should be allowed to enter the contests. As long as he proves that he didn't enter his name 50 times! :p

That makes sense to me. The hat drawing was nice, especially for me, but I do think that going out on a picture scavenger hunt would show the true players, and cut out alot of the BS of figuring out who is worthy.

[DavesRepsol]

I do agree that BK should be able to enter also, and I still consider myself a noob here. I do agree that it is way too easy to just join and click yes to enter.......I bet that RepsolRobert can some up with something confusing for guidlines according to his giveaway for the flag, lol

I think that at the very least there should be min. time as a member before you can enter.

[Big Kahuna]

Hmmm, okay, we've got some good ideas here. I think I will be more stringent on the contest for here on out. I like the idea of have to post up some pic of some sorts in order to be eligible for the drawing.

Thanks to those that said I should be included, but that is just not going to happen. Although I would love to win some of these prizes (and kid about it), I would rather they go to another member than me. :)

[rsxscrazy]

I am fairly new to the site also 2-3 months now but when i joined there wasn't a drawing at all. For some people it my just be out of luck when they came across the site there was a free drawing. I am agreeing with most but a introduction, pictures, and a certain post count (25)ect.

[Repsol Robert]

I do agree that BK should be able to enter also, and I still consider myself a noob here. I do agree that it is way too easy to just join and click yes to enter.......I bet that RepsolRobert can some up with something confusing for guidlines according to his giveaway for the flag, lol

I think that at the very least there should be min. time as a member before you can enter.

The flag thing was a one-off giveaway I came up with myself, and it was a little like a scavenger hunt, but guess what...only 3 people entered that contest!!! I was shocked. This approach while fun for a few doesn't get the participation level that William would desire.

On the topic of minimum post/contribution requirements, what it really does is force a different behavior than a mojority of online participants exhibit. Most people lurk in the shadows avoiding posting for a variety of reasons. For them this site is a vault of informatioin that they use, as opposed to contributing to the information base.

Let's face it, the comment that there are about 25 of us active posters is probably a little optimistic...but whatever that number, this means there are a couple hundred who just don't post.

I understand the intent of a minimum post/contribution rule, and for those that want to take advantage of the winning opportunities will just have to come out of the shadows and face Hondahoon and TX...:D

[Malleus Dei]

I agree that a valid point has been brought to light, however I would like to point out that some of us have more time to devote to the site than others. For example JGrepsol has 8 posts since joining this month, whereas I have 10 posts since joining last month, and Hondaman69 has 136 posts and he also joined last month. So is it fair to evaluate someone by how many posts they have? Maybe it is, maybe it isn't. I don't post very often for a number of reasons, I am a failry new member, I am not very opininated towards most things, I work two jobs and can't be on the site very often. I do own a Repsol, but have not posted pics yet (I will soon). I also have an avatar. So should I be allowed to enter the contests? I think I should, but if you don't that's OK with me. I didn't join this site to enter contests, I joined because I have a passion for motorcycles, specifically the Repsol, I also joined because this site seems very friendly and welcoming to those who think like I do. I joined to share information, knowledge and ideas. I joined to help others when I can. I realize that there is the possibility of those joining just to enter a contest, and I find that to be within their right as the site is set up. So do what you feel you need to do, if I can't join in the contests for a while, so be it. I will still visit the site to get help, help when I can, and to enjoy.

[TX Repsol]

but guess what...only 3 people entered that contest!!! I was shocked. This approach while fun for a few doesn't get the participation level that William would desire.

When I mentioned this, I tried to make it obvious that I was trying to keep it painfully simple, though still requiring some modicum of effort. For example, post a picture of your right front blinker. Or, to make it fair for the people without digital camera, find a pic of Hayden at laguna Seca and post that. Just something to require effort.

And I fully intended to enter RR's contest. I scoured the site looking for a picture of the people I knew were present in the photo so I could figure out who was who. Couldn't find 'em. Then I would've had to find out who's bike was who's, and I just gave up. :confused2::confused:

I agree that a valid point has been brought to light, however I would like to point out that some of us have more time to devote to the site than others.

Which is why I think the post count should not be considered.

I didn't join this site to enter contests, I joined because I have a passion for motorcycles, specifically the Repsol,

None of us did. The give-a-ways are just an added bonus that have come to fruition lately.

Thanks to those that said I should be included, but that is just not going to happen. Although I would love to win some of these prizes (and kid about it), I would rather they go to another member than me. :)

Hmmm.... BK must be running for governor!

[Thrasher]

Well since you like Valentino Rossi you should get a pass on all rules as he and Joey Dunlop (RIP) are the Greatest riders that ever lived.
I have my fire proof suit on now so go ahead.:weirdface:

[Malleus Dei]

Well since you like Valentino Rossi you should get a pass on all rules as he and Joey Dunlop (RIP) are the Greatest riders that ever lived.
I have my fire proof suit on now so go ahead.:weirdface:

Wait for it, wait for it.....:D

[Thrasher]

Still waiting guess everyone agrees. YEA I',m RIGHT AGAIN:evilgrin:

[ZZGIXXER]

Hmmm, okay, we've got some good ideas here. I think I will be more stringent on the contest for here on out. I like the idea of have to post up some pic of some sorts in order to be eligible for the drawing.

Thanks to those that said I should be included, but that is just not going to happen. Although I would love to win some of these prizes (and kid about it), I would rather they go to another member than me. :)


I think that most of us have a point here to take in consideration...for those who are new in this forum...i think that they will have the chance to be included in the future giveaways. i think that the new members should have their vin# posted like the rest of us. and some sort of picture with their bikes...and perhaps 50-100 posts.

i have seen some other forums where the members who participate in the giveaways....have to have a minimum of 40 posts or more.

perhaps.....bk should take a survey then go from what the members decide to do....or choose to do. DEMOCRACY AT WORK !!!!!

[rsxscrazy]

Start a new thread with a poll.

Post the options of what you are thinking such as...

Post count number. 25-50-100
Pictures. Gallary, Yes-no
newb thread post. Yes-no

and let the people vote... and so on...

[Big Kahuna]

Okay, I added a poll to this thread. Voting is private, and you can vote for more than one option. Please let me know if I've missed any of the suggestions before voting as you will not be able to change your votes once completed.

[cowboyadam]

Setting a post count is just gonna lead to a bunch of :postwhorenana:ing. I like the participation

ideas like photos and stuff. RRs picture game was a little too complicated for this. Though it

was a cool idea, and nice of him to give away that cool flag.

[Hondaman69]

Wow I dont have any pictures of my bike yet considering I have to wait to get it, but I can take some pretty sweet pictures of my mountain bike I have and post those.

:D

[rsxscrazy]

i belieave the time thing will be a hard thing to add. I just feel that you shouldn't be able to jump in and register just for the giveaways. and a few making the giveaway there first post. :confused2:

[1eyebrother]

Wow I dont have any pictures of my bike yet considering I have to wait to get it, but I can take some pretty sweet pictures of my mountain bike I have and post those.

:D

i posted some pictures of the bike that you are going to buy...that should count...:D

[ZZGIXXER]

Okay, I added a poll to this thread. Voting is private, and you can vote for more than one option. Please let me know if I've missed any of the suggestions before voting as you will not be able to change your votes once completed.



good job !!!! i like that !!!

[Thrasher]

I went all the way back to May in the NEWBIE area just to make sure I introduced myself and sure enough I did ,So i'm safe. Didnt wont HH calling out on minor slip up.:D

[hondahoon]

I went all the way back to May in the NEWBIE area just to make sure I introduced myself and sure enough I did ,So i'm safe. Didnt wont HH calling out on minor slip up.:D

its ok.. its BK i am calling out on that 1 .. dont see one from him :D:D:D

HH

[Hondaman69]

i posted some pictures of the bike that you are going to buy...that should count...:D


WOW :eek:No pressure in getting it now huh. You have drug the whole forum into the deal now. Boy I sure hope I can deliver. Oh well I am sure everything will work out for the best considering how long I have waited to get a bike again and all the prayers I have been saying.


:D:D

[MeanMachine]

Time as a member. Forget the minimum post bullsh!t. Some of you guys are so damn set on the number of posts.

I said it before, and I will say it again for the ones who just don't get it. When you use number of posts for a minimum for anything, you simply encourage a ton of nothing bullsh!t posts by people trying to get thier post count number up. Its always the same, make a minimum number of posts and people will go from thread to thread and post up a storm.

Make it a minimum time as a member, if you are going to be around long term, prove it. TIME as a member is a true measure, not how many times you can waste space posting nothing.

If you win once, you are not eligible for a year. With the number of members we have if the same person wins twice within a few months it will start looking like a fix. Then again, no one knows how winners are really picked anyway, their names just get announced.

[hondahoon]

I said it before, and I will say it again for the ones who just don't get it. When you use number of posts for a minimum for anything, you simply encourage a ton of nothing bullsh!t posts by people trying to get thier post count number up. Its always the same, make a minimum number of posts and people will go from thread to thread and post up a storm.

Make it a minimum time as a member, if you are going to be around long term, prove it. TIME as a member is a true measure, not how many times you can waste space posting nothing.

Then again, no one knows how winners are really picked anyway, their names just get announced.

ok.. point 1... this is different to normal how??????
are you saying that me,dave,tx,47 post nothing but bull****? :evilgrin:

point 2...disagree.. what about people that signed in months ago & havent made even 1 post... to me.. they are not active or participating members but in your model that would make them able to take the freebies

point 3... sorry MM you deserve a spray for this....
BK has been very ethical in doing this & HAS ALWAYS posted video fotage of the drawing of the winners... if you said this to me i would take it as a complete insult towards my integrity & honesty....

this above statement from you is 1 of the most offensive i have seen on this forum..

HH

[TX Repsol]

point 2...disagree.. what about people that signed in months ago & havent made even 1 post... to me.. they are not active or participating members but in your model that would make them able to take the freebies

point 3... sorry MM you deserve a spray for this....
BK has been very ethical in doing this & HAS ALWAYS posted video footage of the drawing of the winners...

I may get struck by lighting as soon as I hit "Submit Reply", but I agree with HH on this one.

Time served means nothing to me as it doesn't prove someone as an "active" member. Being "active" should be the number one requirement.

Hooner's right - BK always posts a video of him (or in the last drawing, Jodi) actually drawing the name out of a hat. He even shows the list of names he prints to cut all the names out and throw in the hat. Don't see how it could get more up front and out in the open than that...

[Thrasher]

Gotta agree with HH , MM perhaps you mispoke or werent thinking clear when you diminished BKs integrity. I really think you should apoligize for that one

[CRAZYJM_2000]

Ummm I will have to post on this one. I'm new here but I'm an organizer/moderator/administrator for socalsportbikeriders.org, trackdayjunkie.com, 600rr.net and others I didn't come in here to win free stuff I never win anyways lol I like this site because of all the information about repsol replica bikes and the people in here. I don't post much I read all the stuff going on. My group is all about making better and safer street riders and helping others. One of my goals is helping people learn about track days. I like helping others and i will be glad to help any of my fellow repsol members on any questions or worries about trackdays check out trackdayjunkie.com for some great inf on track days. I met Repsol Robert the other day for the oct29 track day he is a real nice guy plus he has a repsol lol the year is about to end and most of my events are getting to an end for this year. All of you guys are welcome on socalsportbikeriders.org and trackdayjunkie.com next year I'm looking forward on setting up many track days in which I could get discounts, free instructor by pro racers and pro intructors which we have on our trackdays already but will now be available to you guys. I agree on having some rules I don't agree on some of the rules some want to have I think we must have a way for this to be fair for all and not try to push the newbies out. I think taking a pic with your repsol in a requested way is enough to show that you actually have one but that is me speaking for myself only. Again if any of you need anything send me an e-mail I'll be happy to help but good luck to all hope your ideas work;)

[tholder]

I don't think time on the forum nor post count can be the true measuring stick here. I think those two things combined with the other details (avatar, ect) have to taken as a whole to determine who is an active member or not. My two cents on the matter.

[DavesRepsol]

\ BK always posts a video of him (or in the last drawing, Jodi) actually drawing the name out of a hat. He even shows the list of names he prints to cut all the names out and throw in the hat. Don't see how it could get more up front and out in the open than that...

My thoughts exactly, I dont really think about the number of posts I have. This is a forum, the way we communicate here is by posts. If I see something I want to comment on, then I do. In my book "Active Member" means being involved in any and all threads. If a member never voices their opinion or adds to the Forum in any way and then once a month clicks Yes to the giveaway I have a problem with that. There was 90 people that voted this last month on the Giveaway, and only about 20 that have spoken so far in this thread(which involves everyone).:confused2:

I have to agree with HH and Thrasher.

[Jacobs Dad]

My thoughts exactly, I dont really think about the number of posts I have. This is a forum, the way we communicate here is by posts. If I see something I want to comment on, then I do. In my book "Active Member" means being involved in any and all threads. If a member never voices their opinion or adds to the Forum in any way and then once a month clicks Yes to the giveaway I have a problem with that. There was 90 people that voted this last month on the Giveaway, and only about 20 that have spoken so far in this thread(which involves everyone).:confused2:

I have to agree with HH and Thrasher.

Which is what I said. Yes we have a ton of members, but the same 20-25 are the only ones who post on a regular basis. Not to say that, only those people can enter, I am simply stating a point.

[Malleus Dei]

I already replied once to this post, but I feel the need to add another two cents so.....
I have only been here since October of this year when I found the site. I liked the site, and the others members on it, so I decided to join. I entered the contest last month because there were no rules excluding me, and I thought it was a cool prize. This month I entered again for the same reasons, but also because this was going to be an upgrade that I wanted to do in the future. Now I realize that I have not been here very long, and I have not posted that often, but I have posted in the Newbie section, added my vin #, and uploaded an avatar. I haven't posted any pics of my bike yet, but those will follow soon. I did notice that just above my avatar I am listed as a junior member, and I realize that the day that I joined I was given this title, but still I consider myself a member of this forum. I'm not looking to get flamed here, but if you disagree with me and feel that I should'nt be allowed the same rights as other more vested members then go ahaed and change the rule. Perhaps make all newly joined members probationary members, instead of junior members, or whatever. Lastly, I am not going to vote on this, because giving a junior member the right to vote on this is similar to letting them enter the contests. If those new to the site vote they may just vote the way that is best for them to be allowed the same rights as those who have tenure here. Disagree with me if you want, this is just how I feel.

By the way, congratulations Derrick on winning last months contest!

[Jacobs Dad]

I already replied once to this post, but I feel the need to add another two cents so.....
I have only been here since October of this year when I found the site. I liked the site, and the others members on it, so I decided to join. I entered the contest last month because there were no rules excluding me, and I thought it was a cool prize. This month I entered again for the same reasons, but also because this was going to be an upgrade that I wanted to do in the future. Now I realize that I have not been here very long, and I have not posted that often, but I have posted in the Newbie section, added my vin #, and uploaded an avatar. I haven't posted any pics of my bike yet, but those will follow soon. I did notice that just above my avatar I am listed as a junior member, and I realize that the day that I joined I was given this title, but still I consider myself a member of this forum. I'm not looking to get flamed here, but if you disagree with me and feel that I should'nt be allowed the same rights as other more vested members then go ahaed and change the rule. Perhaps make all newly joined members probationary members, instead of junior members, or whatever. Lastly, I am not going to vote on this, because giving a junior member the right to vote on this is similar to letting them enter the contests. If those new to the site vote they may just vote the way that is best for them to be allowed the same rights as those who have tenure here. Disagree with me if you want, this is just how I feel.

By the way, congratulations Derrick on winning last months contest!

Don't feel bad, I'm still ajunior member, and have been here since march. I'm just not a post whore like someone we all know. Don't want to mention any names (DAVESREPSOL). :postwhorenana:

[DavesRepsol]

Don't feel bad, I'm still ajunior member, and have been here since march. I'm just not a post whore like someone we all know. Don't want to mention any names (DAVESREPSOL). :postwhorenana:

Whew........Sure glad you did not mention any names, That would be bad:evilgrin::evilgrin:

I hear the postwhore linch mob is on the lookout for me, keep it on the DL JD.:D:D:D

[cowboyadam]

I knew this was gonna cause a stir. Really it was just aimed at the people that start off with

their first posts in the give aways. I just noticed something that didnt look right, or seem fair

to long term members (no offense to noobs). Its cool that the site is growing and we are

able to meet so many people with a common interest. Also, its super cool of the Repsol Store to do

this for us. And BK is a stand up guy for taking the time to put all this together.

I doubt Ill ever win a prize (have always had crappy luck). Just think the prizes should go

to a person who owns a Repsol and is an active member of the site.

[DonnasRepsol]

Time as a member. Forget the minimum post bullsh!t. Some of you guys are so damn set on the number of posts.

I said it before, and I will say it again for the ones who just don't get it. When you use number of posts for a minimum for anything, you simply encourage a ton of nothing bullsh!t posts by people trying to get thier post count number up. Its always the same, make a minimum number of posts and people will go from thread to thread and post up a storm.

Make it a minimum time as a member, if you are going to be around long term, prove it. TIME as a member is a true measure, not how many times you can waste space posting nothing.

If you win once, you are not eligible for a year. With the number of members we have if the same person wins twice within a few months it will start looking like a fix. Then again, no one knows how winners are really picked anyway, their names just get announced.

Mean are you having a bad day:(:(
We are speaking about a forum which is defined as a gathering place for discussion of questions of public interest....well I think that means we can talk about anything that is of interest or in some others opinion bull****. Some of us like Hoon and Davesrepsol and tx and BK, ZZGixxer and Jacobs Dad enjoy talking about Bull**** and you don't want them taking up the "limited space" on the internet to do so, am I reading your concern correctly??
I don't really care how the winner is picked and I trust that BK is not such Butt buddies with anyone on this forum that he would put his reputation on the line to fix a contest...come on lets get real here.
Calm down and don't be jealous just because you are a looser I mean that you lost maybe BK will fix the next one so you will win......:rocketlauncher:

[MeanMachine]

Mean are you having a bad day:(:(
We are speaking about a forum which is defined as a gathering place for discussion of questions of public interest....well I think that means we can talk about anything that is of interest or in some others opinion bull****. Some of us like Hoon and Davesrepsol and tx and BK, ZZGixxer and Jacobs Dad enjoy talking about Bull**** and you don't want them taking up the "limited space" on the internet to do so, am I reading your concern correctly??
I don't really care how the winner is picked and I trust that BK is not such Butt buddies with anyone on this forum that he would put his reputation on the line to fix a contest...come on lets get real here.
Calm down and don't be jealous just because you are a looser I mean that you lost maybe BK will fix the next one so you will win......:rocketlauncher:


First of all, I never said anyone here was posting too much, or posting bull****, so get your sh** straight before you flap your gums. In answer to your question, NO you did not read my concern correctly at all.

What I meant was people would join, see they need a certain number of posts and go post happy for a day or two to get thier count up. Those of us alreadt here and active are NOT part of what I was saying. Ths discussion was about people joining and participating in givaways right off the bat. I NEVER mentioned anyone here, I was speaking about NEWCOMERS. How the hell any of you thought I meant specific people here is nucking futs.

Example: There are common rules in many forums that you need a certain number of posts in order to sell in the for sale section. And many times you see some people join and start posting like mad because they want to sell something in that section, so they go wild with "+1" and other one word posts just to inflate thier post count as fast as possible. That would happen here if all we had was a minimum number of posts required. It just degrades the crap out of a forum when a bunch of newbies show up and post all over the place looking to hit a certain post count.

Time as a member should at least be a large part of it. If you want to combine that with some other requirements, fine. But too many people here put alot of stock in post numbers.

AGAIN, concerning my statement about people posting BS. I was speaking about NEWCOMERS ONLY. That was the current topic. I NEVER mentioned nor even implied anything about any current members. And if thats the way any of you took it, maybe you are just paranoid.

Is that clear enough now?

And I did not mean to imply anything about BK. I simply stated an observation. If you read it a certain way then thats how YOU interpreted it. And for your info, I offered to donate a brand new set of frame sliders as a giveaway not long ago, ask BK. What the hell have you offered up?

[Big Kahuna]

Donna, you haven't been around here very long so you don't understand how harsh Mean Machine can be at times. I guess it's not just a cleaver nickname, as it seems he can't seem to voice his opinion without trying to stir the pot.

Mean Machine, why is it that most of your post here are very confrontational? Why can't you get a long well with others? Believe it or not, it is possible to post your opinions without belittling others. Have you even been paying attention? I have posted actual videos of each and every drawing. You know damn well exactly how the names are drawn because you can watch it with your very own eyes?

Let's try to get back on topic and not let it get so personal.

[MeanMachine]

Donna, you haven't been around here very long so you don't understand how harsh Mean Machine can be at times. I guess it's not just a cleaver nickname, as it seems he can't seem to voice his opinion without trying to stir the pot.

Mean Machine, why is it that most of your post here are very confrontational? Why can't you get a long well with others? Believe it or not, it is possible to post your opinions without belittling others. Have you even been paying attention? I have posted actual videos of each and every drawing. You know damn well exactly how the names are drawn because you can watch it with your very own eyes?

Let's try to get back on topic and not let it get so personal.

Use YOUR eyes as well BK. My post had NOTHING, and I mean abso****inglutely NOTHING to do with ANY CURRENT MEMBERS, I was talking about new people. If Donna isnt smart enough to understand what I meant then thats not my fault, is it? READ what I wrote again, and show me where anything I said was directed at any current member.

I mentioned people trying to get post counts up to qualify for something if we used post counts as the requirement. None of us here need to do that to enter a contest or anything (again, the topic here, right?). Those of us here discussing this all have posts counts of 200+ so why would I be talking about current members????

I honestly never even considered current members when I made that statement. One person misunderstood me and the rest of you followed suit rather than reading what I said.

I get misunderstood and I am the bad guy? WTF?

[Big Kahuna]

Dude, are we going to do this again?

Use my own eyes? I wasn't referring to your initial comments, I'm talking about how you reacted to Donna's words. Comments like "so get your sh** straight before you flap your gums" and "If Donna isnt smart enough to understand what I meant then thats not my fault" are not necessary.

I can't help the fact that you can't see how harsh you put your words. That is your own problem. But the fact is they are indeed harsh and prompt others to react. When Donna called you on it, you lashed out at her, plain and simple.

Then you come back at me? I'm done discussing it here, if you want to discuss this any further you can contact me via PM.

[hondahoon]

I get misunderstood and I am the bad guy? WTF?

nope.. you are being the bad guy because you are being an offensive turd...
i re read it & i stll feel it was directed at members even though you say it wasnt...
naybe others read it the same way

ohhh & i didnt see the apology to BK about the th way things are drawn..
are you not man enouhg to admit you are wrong?...

& as BK said.. quit with the personal attacks on people dude.. its not cool... it just makes oyu look like a dick & as much of a clown as i can be..... personal attacks made in the way you are making them are not cool

HH

[MeanMachine]

nope.. you are being the bad guy because you are being an offensive turd...
i re read it & i stll feel it was directed at members even though you say it wasnt...
naybe others read it the same way

ohhh & i didnt see the apology to BK about the th way things are drawn..
are you not man enouhg to admit you are wrong?...

& as BK said.. quit with the personal attacks on people dude.. its not cool... it just makes oyu look like a dick & as much of a clown as i can be..... personal attacks made in the way you are making them are not cool

HH

OK, lets do this logically, with no arguing.


I said it before, and I will say it again for the ones who just don't get it. When you use number of posts for a minimum for anything, you simply encourage a ton of nothing bullsh!t posts by people trying to get thier post count number up. Its always the same, make a minimum number of posts and people will go from thread to thread and post up a storm.

Make it a minimum time as a member, if you are going to be around long term, prove it. TIME as a member is a true measure, not how many times you can waste space posting nothing.

OK HH, there's the proof. I was talking about the need for posts counts IF we had a minimum number required for something. Currently we don't have a required minimum for anything, right? Therefore, HOW could I be talking about anyone here when what I said really doesn't apply to anyone here?

Also, I apologize to BK. I did not mean it that way, and it was something I should'nt have said.

[hondahoon]

Time as a member. Some of you guys are so damn set on the number of posts.

I said it before, and I will say it again for the ones who just don't get it. When you use number of posts for a minimum for anything, you simply encourage a ton of nothing bullsh!t posts by people trying to get thier post count number up. Its always the same, make a minimum number of posts and people will go from thread to thread and post up a storm.

Make it a minimum time as a member, if you are going to be around long term, prove it. TIME as a member is a true measure, not how many times you can waste space posting nothing.

.

that to me appears that you do not appreciate those of us that have a bit of light hearted banter with eachother on or off topic & the fact that you will find a lot of posts where there are discussions between people on 1 or more issues off topic

also.. the statement i made was no a personal attack.. if you read it properly it said

its not cool... it just makes oyu look like a dick & as much of a clown as i can be..... personal attacks made in the way you are making them are not cool

a personal attack would have read "you ARE an offensive & obnoxious dick STFU "
instead i chose to point out the way you are making YOURSELF look to everyone else

have a nice day :)

HH

[DavesRepsol]

Use YOUR eyes as well BK. My post had NOTHING, and I mean abso****inglutely NOTHING to do with ANY CURRENT MEMBERS, I was talking about new people. If Donna isnt smart enough to understand what I meant then thats not my fault, is it? READ what I wrote again, and show me where anything I said was directed at any current member.



Say what you mean, and mean what you say MeanMachine.

Actually your posts were directed at anyone reading them MM, Not once did I see you specified "NEWCOMERS" in your posts, not to mention that you did not say "this excludes current postwhores". As far as the bull ****.. posts go you said " you simply encourage a ton of nothing bullsh!t posts by people trying to get thier post count number up".

As far as you telling my wife to " get your sh** straight before you flap your gums" I say **** you and the horse you rode in on, HH is the only one here that could say something even close to that and get away with it with me, and I don't think he would say that to her to begin with, not meaning it anyway. I do see that you do have personal issue's MM.....
1. You can't take a joke
2. You think that you are smarter than anyone else.
3. clearly you miss understand what you read here more than anyone.

First you referred to my post in the KBC helmet thread as "a stupid statement". Personally I have never heard anyone called a squid for wearing full gear in fact I think right the opposite is true, and also saying that "If Donna isnt smart enough to understand what I meant then thats not my fault, is it?" Donna is VERY SMART, (her GPA attests to that and she has common sense walking around smarts too(how many accountants you know with a personality and a sense of humor??)I quess all of us need to put on our MM decoder ring before reading your posts. You wanted someone to prove what you said was directed at current members? NO WHERE in your posts did you NOT direct it at current members, except of course backpaddeling out of it after BK called your hand on it.

I rather enjoy the occational "DEBATE" and trust me I can take someone disagreeing with me without lashing out at them personally for having a different opinion. Take for example the very controversial subject I started with:" Me Rant???NO Never be afriad to say what is on your mind".



I guess playing well with others is not one of your strong suits.

I will warn you not to cross the line with Donna again.

I would hate to see her loose interest here because of this.

[Jacobs Dad]

Geez, you see, the politics of it all. I think MM has made some good points in other topics we have had about other things. Sounds like if we can't get along we just need to quit doing giveaways. Giveaways are just perks of the site. We are not here for those (at least I am not). I am here for the bike that I love. I don't have a lot of tech experience to add, but do try to help out if I can. I look at the positive, theres donna and dave right down the street from me that I would never have known about it it were not for this site. That to me is more important than any giveaway or info. Yes I am gonna hang out with dave and make him help intall goodies on my bike while I chug some beers. So lets quit being ugly and have some fun. Best situation is skip all the rules, except for this: To enter a contest you must first complete a task (ie: pictures of repsol products in a store) then after that your name will go in a drawing for the prize. This will solve alot of issues.

LOVE YA DAVE AND DONNA, and you to MM. :D

[rsxscrazy]

The bad thing is none of my local shops have any repsol stuff had to drive 4 hours to get my bike.

[1eyebrother]

I just knew this thread was headed for a disaster..I am out of this one....

[MeanMachine]

Say what you mean, and mean what you say MeanMachine.

Actually your posts were directed at anyone reading them MM, Not once did I see you specified "NEWCOMERS" in your posts, not to mention that you said "this excludes current postwhores". As far as the bull ****.. posts go you said " you simply encourage a ton of nothing bullsh!t posts by people trying to get thier post count number up".

First Dave, you are making things up. I NEVER said "this excludes current postwhores". Where in the world did you get that from? And no, I didn't specify newcomers because that was/IS the topic. Why specify the obvious? Also, is there any reason at all for any current members to try to get thier post counts up? Read the highlighted part below, I was referring to what CAN happen if you use post counts as a requirement for things. We have no such requirement yet, and no reason for anyone here to try and inflate thier post count. Again, HOW could that be directed at current members? It doesnt apply to them!

I also was making an argument in favor of time as a member as a requirement. Again, something that could not be taken to mean current members. I was referring to people joining and entering giveaways, etc. which was a main part of the topic.

Here is what I said:

Time as a member. Forget the minimum post bullsh!t. Some of you guys are so damn set on the number of posts.

I said it before, and I will say it again for the ones who just don't get it. When you use number of posts for a minimum for anything, you simply encourage a ton of nothing bullsh!t posts by people trying to get thier post count number up. Its always the same, make a minimum number of posts and people will go from thread to thread and post up a storm.

Make it a minimum time as a member, if you are going to be around long term, prove it. TIME as a member is a true measure, not how many times you can waste space posting nothing.

When someone clarifys a statement, and you refuse to accept it, call them a liar, and continue to argue... is that reasonable? You and HH are in battle mode, and no matter how hard I try to clear this up YOU tell me what I meant and continue to crucify me for it. I am telling you and everyone here what I meant, I have gone thru great lengths to show what I meant.

Does anyone here understand what I was saying, and does anyone see that I could not have meant current members? It was in response to the topic, which was requirements for new members entering contests and giveaways.

Anyone?

[Jacobs Dad]

Geez, you see, the politics of it all. I think MM has made some good points in other topics we have had about other things. Sounds like if we can't get along we just need to quit doing giveaways. Giveaways are just perks of the site. We are not here for those (at least I am not). I am here for the bike that I love. I don't have a lot of tech experience to add, but do try to help out if I can. I look at the positive, theres donna and dave right down the street from me that I would never have known about it it were not for this site. That to me is more important than any giveaway or info. Yes I am gonna hang out with dave and make him help intall goodies on my bike while I chug some beers. So lets quit being ugly and have some fun. Best situation is skip all the rules, except for this: To enter a contest you must first complete a task (ie: pictures of repsol products in a store) then after that your name will go in a drawing for the prize. This will solve alot of issues.

LOVE YA DAVE AND DONNA, and you to MM. :D

Lets get along, I think at this juncture regarding MM & Dave it :deadhorse:

[DavesRepsol]

I did make a typo in my reply about the postwhores, just edited it.

Your comments about the post counts DOES apply to current members because you stated"Some of you guys are so damn set on the number of posts." Who are "SOME OF YOU GUYS" That could only mean current people posting. So I think you see where current members could have taken it as you were referring to them.

Personally not once have I made a comment about post count being anything of any consequence. I think it is irrelevant.

Donna wrote:

Mean are you having a bad day
We are speaking about a forum which is defined as a gathering place for discussion of questions of public interest....well I think that means we can talk about anything that is of interest or in some others opinion bull****. Some of us like Hoon and Davesrepsol and tx and BK, ZZGixxer and Jacobs Dad enjoy talking about Bull**** and you don't want them taking up the "limited space" on the internet to do so, am I reading your concern correctly??
I don't really care how the winner is picked and I trust that BK is not such Butt buddies with anyone on this forum that he would put his reputation on the line to fix a contest...come on lets get real here.
Calm down and don't be jealous just because you are a looser I mean that you lost maybe BK will fix the next one so you will win......

I am sorry you do not see the comedy in what she wrote, it was basically making fun of you being on your period (like a girl)with your comments. She was poking fun at you, not trying to start a fight with you.

BK said:

I'm talking about how you reacted to Donna's words. Comments like "so get your sh** straight before you flap your gums" and "If Donna isnt smart enough to understand what I meant then thats not my fault" are not necessary.


I have to agree with him. Donna was not saying you were stupid, did not have your shi_t straight, or you were not smart enough to keep up with her.

I am definently not here to argue, Debate maybe:evilgrin:.....Since I feel I have been impartial on this I will not post on this thread again.

[Jacobs Dad]

Since there have been no replies to my above stated resolutions, It may be time for a *****CAGE MATCH*****. :evilgrin:

"The Judge" has spoken. Can we get my title changed to that? :D

Hey, just trying to lighten the mood. Don't make me have to post pics of me naked to get a laugh, I'll do it. :eek:

[MeanMachine]

Don't make me have to post pics of me naked to get a laugh, I'll do it. :eek:

JD, Please PLEASE keep those clothes on! :eek:

[DavesRepsol]

I don't want this to go any further, Things are Fine, everyone has said what they needed, Plus I was running out of piss for this pissing match.....Holding myself so much was getting me excited, I did not want it to turn this into a juice match.:eek::eek::evilgrin::evilgrin:

[MeanMachine]

I did make a typo in my reply about the postwhores, just edited it.

Your comments about the post counts DOES apply to current members because you stated"Some of you guys are so damn set on the number of posts."

I see where Dave could misunderstand me. Easily fixed! I was referring to some of you guys being set on the number of posts as a requirement for contests/giveaways (the poll), not your personal practices. I meant some of you were too hung up on that as a good measure. I said that because I was preceding my pitch in favor of time as a member instead of posts. But, HH made a good point that membership time isn't perfect either since there are members that have been here for a long time and never posted (ie: not active).

So, if anyone else (HH included) interpreted that part like Dave did, then I hope I cleared it up. :)

By the way, Dave and I ARE cool with all this (we have talked outside the thread) and both agree we misunderstood each other, and as he said, things are fine.

Game on!

[Jacobs Dad]

I see where Dave could misunderstand me. Easily fixed! I was referring to some of you guys being set on the number of posts as a requirement for contests/giveaways (the poll), not your personal practices. I meant some of you were too hung up on that as a good measure. I said that because I was preceding my pitch in favor of time as a member instead of posts. But, HH made a good point that membership time isn't perfect either since there are members that have been here for a long time and never posted (ie: not active).

So, if anyone else (HH included) interpreted that part like Dave did, then I hope I cleared it up. :)



By the way, Dave and I ARE cool with all this (we have talked outside the thread) and both agree we misunderstood each other, and as he said, things are fine.

Game on!

Well hell, there went the cage match. :mad:

[MeanMachine]

Well hell, there went the cage match. :mad:

Sorry JD, but your threat of personal nudity made us see the err of our ways!

:evilgrin:

[cowboyadam]

Since there have been no replies to my above stated resolutions, It may be time for a *****CAGE MATCH*****. :evilgrin:

"The Judge" has spoken. Can we get my title changed to that? :D

Hey, just trying to lighten the mood. Don't make me have to post pics of me naked to get a laugh, I'll do it. :eek:

Please no.... :eek: :D

[Repsoul]

Hmmm, well I've try to stay out of this one because I am a true noob and have only been on the forum for a few weeks. However after the initial brainstorm of ideas that eventually turned in to a pissing contest followed by all holding hands and singing "koombayaa" due to being threatened of observing nude pics of JD, I figured it was time to voice my opinion as a true noobie.

All of you make valid points, however you have also pointed out the cons as well as the pros to each other. Granted some voice stronger than others. It seems though that we as a group are running in circles. BK, the poll is a good idea but what will come of the data when processed? You'll implement the most popular idea and there will still be "heated debates" over the outcome. A bit of a conundrum eh? (whoops, sorry using big words will throw off HH) You can't please everyone, period.

I joined because like everyone here, I love the Repsol product. I don't own a Repsol presently. If that excludes me from giveaways, so be it. If my post count isn't enough and that excludes me, so be it. Another reason this forum is so great is because of the people on the forum. Senior members; I would assume that you would want to continue to attract quality members to the site. Some will use it as a source of information, others will interact with members, some will try and suck up the freebies. It is inevitable that greedy people will be who they are, greedy. I love the idea of winning as much as the next person, but that is not why I am here and will gladly withdraw from any prize giveaway. I am here to develop bonds with like minded people. I feel that if you start throwing "restrictions" of any kind to new members it will turn them off from this forum.

So, here is my idea. Allow all who want to be considered for receiving freebies check a "would you like to be eligible or ineligible for prize giveaways", box when they join. Present members would be able to go in to their User CP and check the same box once BK puts them in. Then, take all that are eligible and divide them up in to 3 groups. Each month/giveaway one particular group will be in the drawing. The following month the next group, the following month the 3rd group, then back to the first group and so on in a rotation. What this would do is divide it up where a "noob" would have to put in some time and effort by being placed in the group furthest out from the date he/she joins. In other words, December would be group 1. A newbie would be placed in group 3 which would not make them eligible until February. That would give all members some time to "check em' out", trial period, whatever you want to call it. I also think this would increase everyones chance of winning and would prevent someone from winning twice in a row so it's more fair to all.

Well, I hope this may put some of this issue to bed so we can get back to talking about why we all do what we do, ride baby ride!!

:coolsun::dblthumbsup::nana:

[hondahoon]

Hmmm, well I've try to stay out of this one because I am a true noob and have only been on the forum for a few weeks. However after the initial brainstorm of ideas that eventually turned in to a pissing contest followed by all holding hands and singing "koombayaa" due to being threatened of observing nude pics of JD, I figured it was time to voice my opinion as a true noobie.

All of you make valid points, however you have also pointed out the cons as well as the pros to each other. Granted some voice stronger than others. It seems though that we as a group are running in circles. BK, the poll is a good idea but what will come of the data when processed? You'll implement the most popular idea and there will still be "heated debates" over the outcome. A bit of a conundrum eh? (whoops, sorry using big words will throw off HH) You can't please everyone, period.

I joined because like everyone here, I love the Repsol product. I don't own a Repsol presently. If that excludes me from giveaways, so be it. If my post count isn't enough and that excludes me, so be it. Another reason this forum is so great is because of the people on the forum. Senior members; I would assume that you would want to continue to attract quality members to the site. Some will use it as a source of information, others will interact with members, some will try and suck up the freebies. It is inevitable that greedy people will be who they are, greedy. I love the idea of winning as much as the next person, but that is not why I am here and will gladly withdraw from any prize giveaway. I am here to develop bonds with like minded people. I feel that if you start throwing "restrictions" of any kind to new members it will turn them off from this forum.

So, here is my idea. Allow all who want to be considered for receiving freebies check a "would you like to be eligible or ineligible for prize giveaways", box when they join. Present members would be able to go in to their User CP and check the same box once BK puts them in. Then, take all that are eligible and divide them up in to 3 groups. Each month/giveaway one particular group will be in the drawing. The following month the next group, the following month the 3rd group, then back to the first group and so on in a rotation. What this would do is divide it up where a "noob" would have to put in some time and effort by being placed in the group furthest out from the date he/she joins. In other words, December would be group 1. A newbie would be placed in group 3 which would not make them eligible until February. That would give all members some time to "check em' out", trial period, whatever you want to call it. I also think this would increase everyones chance of winning and would prevent someone from winning twice in a row so it's more fair to all.

Well, I hope this may put some of this issue to bed so we can get back to talking about why we all do what we do, ride baby ride!!

:coolsun::dblthumbsup::nana:

STFU NOOB who said you could have an oppinion?... get back in your box

HH

[DavesRepsol]

Well, Jason.....:hail: That was a very well thought out reply, You actually sound like an intellectual, TOO BAD you had your mama write it for you......:D You might just make it here, putting down HH and everything.......dam_n....:evilgrin:

Sounds like to me you need to HTFU........:evilgrin:

Your post is worthless without a picture, How do you expect Some of the guys here to understand what you are talking about if you dont draw a diagram of what you mean and post it?????? CRAYON preferred......:rolleyes:

[Repsoul]

STFU NOOB who said you could have an oppinion?... get back in your box

HH


Wow HH, what a well thought out response. How long did it take you to come up with it? One second? Two? Thanks for playing!!



Anyway, I just figured I would throw up an idea and to me it looks like it would work and benefit all. If a newbie is only here for the goodies, in three months when they would be eligible, they most likely will have forgotten and moved on to another forum. In the slim chance there is a prize won by a person who would like to throw it back in the pool, then a re-draw from the same group can be done or whatever BK decides to do. Again, just trying to help by "coming out of my box" and now that I'm out, I'm staying out!!

:haha::haha::haha:

[Repsoul]

Well, Jason.....:hail: That was a very well thought out reply, You actually sound like an intellectual, TOO BAD you had your mama write it for you......:D You might just make it here, putting down HH and everything.......dam_n....:evilgrin:

Sounds like to me you need to HTFU........:evilgrin:

Your post is worthless without a picture, How do you expect Some of the guys here to understand what you are talking about if you dont draw a diagram of what you mean and post it?????? CRAYON preferred......:rolleyes:

My mama says i iz speshkal.............:loser:

I would use a crayon but it's still stuck in my nose. Sorry............:sadbanana:

[hondahoon]

Wow HH, what a well thought out response. How long did it take you to come up with it? One second? Two?

Maybe you should practice what you preach HH. You get all over MM for being "offensive", yet this is how you respond? Almost seems like a double standard. I may be taking your response differently from what you intended, but my crack on you was just that, a crack. Yours just seems to come across; dare I say "harsh". So, if my crack pissed you off, my bad. ;)

Anyway, I just figured I would throw up an idea and to me it looks like it would work and benefit all. If a newbie is only here for the goodies, in three months when they would be eligible, they most likely will have forgotten and moved on to another forum. In the slim chance there is a prize won by a person who would like to throw it back in the pool, then a re-draw from the same group can be done or whatever BK decides to do. Again, just trying to help by "coming out of my box" and now that I'm out, I'm staying out!!

:haha::haha::haha:

dry your eyes princess..... :crybaby:
if you read pretty much every post i have made on here.... not 1 of them is a personal attack & i am sorry if i offended you.. but seriously i wouldnt lower myself to attacking even you personally
you were the one continued the pisstaking... if you cant handle the heat then get out of the kitchen
1 thing mate.. i give as good as i get.. everyone here will be testament to that.. they know they can give as much poopoo as the like cause i give it straight back... a lesson you will learn in time

HH

[cowboyadam]

STFU NOOB who said you could have an oppinion?... get back in your box

HH

LMAO... HH your effin crazy

[Repsoul]

dry your eyes princess..... :crybaby:
if you read pretty much every post i have made on here.... not 1 of them is a personal attack & i am sorry if i offended you.. but seriously i wouldnt lower myself to attacking even you personally
you were the one continued the pisstaking... if you cant handle the heat then get out of the kitchen
1 thing mate.. i give as good as i get.. everyone here will be testament to that.. they know they can give as much poopoo as the like cause i give it straight back... a lesson you will learn in time

HH

Wow, you must have been on when I posted that and jumped right away, because as soon as I posted it and went back and edited it to take that out. After I wrote it I felt it wasn't necessary to even bring it up. No biggie, but I guess that proves what I've heard about ya HH. Your a little too quick on the draw if you know what I mean. It's all good, it happens. You got a little excited and POW, it just went off. Don't worry, I won't tell anyone.

:secret:

[ZZGIXXER]

i think im going to be sick of so much reading......LOL!!!!! lets just get back to motogp races.....please !!!

perhaps we should create poll for whom will win the first race in motogp 2008who's with me ???? come one guys....

[Repsoul]

i think im going to be sick of so much reading......LOL!!!!! lets just get back to motogp races.....please !!!

perhaps we should create poll for whom will win the first race in motogp 2008who's with me ???? come one guys....

I would have to agree with ZZ. :focus:

I believe we are here to come up with a solution to the contests here. I've posted my idea, so "Party on Wayne!!"

:party:

[TX Repsol]

HOLY COW BOYS!

I picked a good weekend to go out of town... Looks like everyone kissed and made up.

I heard a good idea early on about posting a picture or something of the sort... ;)

And I really don't like the idea of three groups alternating participation. That basically excludes 2/3 of the site from every drawing and still allows the one post newbies to enter. Completely misses the point of this debate, I think.

[hondahoon]

ok.. i couldnt resist doing it & yes its politically incorrect but hell.... sue me for it :p:p:p:p:p

HH

[DavesRepsol]

ok.. i couldnt resist doing it & yes its politically incorrect but hell.... sue me for it :p:p:p:p:p

HH

I know im going to hell for laughing, but that is FUNNY AS HELL......:pound::pound::pound::pound:

[Repsoul]

Is it getting hot in here?? Holy crap that was funny. I guess we're all going to burn.

:evilgrin::gve::flame:

[Nakkers]

Lets all buy tickets for an item and when they are all sold the item gets raffel'd and won by the ticket holder

[TX Repsol]

BUMP.

And let's keep it civil this time... :D

[1eyebrother]

:dblthumbsup:

[hondahoon]

BUMP.

And let's keep it civil this time... :D

tx mate...

a discussion like this is always going to go south...
there are differing views & singleing out 1 particular group of people...

anyway.. i have said my peice on this topic before so i am staying out of it.. that might give the thread a little more lifespan

HH

[prchmnkyusmc]

I've only been here for umm.... less than probably most, but have already laerned and do at least own a Repsol, even though she's in the Dr's office :D, I'm cool with any rules for contest. Just make them clear.

P.S - I'd stay around all day if there were a umm.... whore base here. I really don't do much at work so I whore it up all day on another 1krr site.I'd be more then willing to split my time and give advice when I can, just I also get really bored at work.
(someone point me to the PW's if I missed em)

[rsxscrazy]

well the coffee shop is where just random stuff goes

[OlympiA]

I accidentally entered this past months contest before realizing that I needed to have 100 posts. I would honestly feel bad if I won in the first month that I was a member. I would say at least 1 month ACTIVE on the forums. Whether thats 20 posts or 100 posts I don't think it matters. If you don't own a bike period then I think its not fair for you to win. If you don't own a Repsol then IDK. I would say its OK but thats cause I am on this forum because I would like to own one eventually. Just my 2 cents....:confused2:

[Repsoul]

Well, if we're going to do this, then let's just friggin' do it. This thread died and now reappeared.

I agree with HH on this one, it will turn in to another pissing contest.

TX and BK seem to be running the show here so I say leave it up to them. You guys make the big bucks to be in charge so make a decision and let's kill this thread. :nuke:

[Repsol47]

I accidentally entered this past months contest before realizing that I needed to have 100 posts. I would honestly feel bad if I won in the first month that I was a member. I would say at least 1 month ACTIVE on the forums. Whether thats 20 posts or 100 posts I don't think it matters. If you don't own a bike period then I think its not fair for you to win. If you don't own a Repsol then IDK. I would say its OK but thats cause I am on this forum because I would like to own one eventually. Just my 2 cents....:confused2:


I think the heartburn that some of us had was that people were just signing up for the giveaways....we have yet to see any participation from them since then.

Who determines what is the right amount of posts or length in the forum....I dont know.

How do we solve it....I think 1eyebrother has made a start with HIS giveaway.

I have a few things that I would like to share....but I will be damned if it is for a "1 post wonder"

[prchmnkyusmc]

Then share, it'll be much appreciated, lol

[hurdles82]

If someone wins a giveaway contest and the person giving away the items does not feel they deserve the item then don't give it to them. Although it shouldn't be to difficult to get to 100 posts. or other requirements. No matter what type of guidelines are set not everyone is going to be pleased. Just don't get too mad when us noobs bring up old threads, because it's not old to us.

[TX Repsol]

If someone wins a giveaway contest and the person giving away the items does not feel they deserve the item then don't give it to them. Although it shouldn't be to difficult to get to 100 posts. or other requirements. No matter what type of guidelines are set not everyone is going to be pleased. Just don't get too mad when us noobs bring up old threads, because it's not old to us.

Most of the giveaways in the past were from site sponsors, so the only person to create rules was Big Kahuna. This thread was started to see if there was a general consensus for guidelines. Like everyone says, you can't please everyone.

The rules for the next few giveaways will be 6 months membership and 100 post minimum. We'll see how it goes.

And if someone postwhore's their way to 100 posts just to get into a contest, I will reset their post count to zero and they will be DQ'd from the current giveaway.


P.S. If a member donates an item for a giveaway, the donating member sets the rules for the giveaway.

[1eyebrother]

Most of the giveaways in the past were from site sponsors, so the only person to create rules was Big Kahuna. This thread was started to see if there was a general consensus for guidelines. Like everyone says, you can't please everyone.

The rules for the next few giveaways will be 6 months membership and 100 post minimum. We'll see how it goes.

And if someone postwhore's their way to 100 posts just to get into a contest, I will reset their post count to zero and they will be DQ'd from the current giveaway.


P.S. If a member donates an item for a giveaway, the donating member sets the rules for the giveaway.

:sweet:

[hurdles82]

Thanks for the info. I think the 6 month 100 post is more than fair. People like me should have gotten the Repsol soon. Some of the best money I ever spent.

[serche]

i dont mine about the time but the total post im against it because theirs guys in here that dont say much and just post should i do that just to get my numbers up must of the time im just reading and going over the gallery does that mean i dont get to participate :confused::confused::confused:

[Repsoul]

Easy fix to that one is 100 posts OR six months as a member.

NO :postwhorenana: or TX will shoot ya down.

Sergio, your almost at 100 as it stands now. Bottom line is TX is running the show right now and he made the decision. Roll with it. ;)

[1eyebrother]

I think any member with the name of Repsoul or a Denver Donkey fan should be excluded immediatly from any contest on this forum......;)

[Repsoul]

I think any member with the name of Repsoul or a Denver Donkey fan should be excluded immediatly from any contest on this forum......;)

LMAO.........:pound:

If the "giveaway king" is constantly the one giving stuff away then maybe he can give away some Chokers memorabilia. Oh wait, that's right.........nobody would want it! :evilgrin:

[serche]

i guess i have no choice other than to follow :mad:

[hondahoon]

i guess i have no choice other than to follow :mad:

ya see.. the prob here is we want participation on the board...
i dotn see the problem with trying to encorage particiaption rather than a board with 10 active posters & 793 lurkers that make the occasional post

HH

[TX Repsol]

ya see.. the prob here is we want participation on the board...
i dotn see the problem with trying to encorage particiaption rather than a board with 10 active posters & 793 lurkers that make the occasional post

HH

This is one for the records folks... a polite, intelligible post by HondaHoon! :p

To add to HH's post, here are the current stats:

680 members total, of those:

55 exceed 100 posts
35 have 50-99 posts
307 have 1-49 posts
283 have 0 (zero) posts

If we don't set rules, it allows 590 people a chance to enter the contests, having never contributed to the site.

Yeah, there are 35 of you that will feel robbed, but you'll get there. ;)

[MikeR]

Im good with that... :rolleyes::D


This is one for the records folks... a polite, intelligible post by HondaHoon! :p

To add to HH's post, here are the current stats:

680 members total, of those:

55 exceed 100 posts
35 have 50-99 posts
307 have 1-49 posts
283 have 0 (zero) posts

If we don't set rules, it allows 590 people a chance to enter the contests, having never contributed to the site.

Yeah, there are 35 of you that will feel robbed, but you'll get there. ;)

[Hondaman69]

I believe it should be up to the site administrator what the rules are, and if you dont like the rules them goto some other site.

[Repsoul]

Can't argue with those kind of numbers.

Out of 590 people only 55 of us are over 100 posts??? :wtf:

I think we have our decision ladies and gents. Post up or STFU! :evilgrin:

[Repsol47]

This is one for the records folks... a polite, intelligible post by HondaHoon! :p

To add to HH's post, here are the current stats:

680 members total, of those:

55 exceed 100 posts
35 have 50-99 posts
307 have 1-49 posts
283 have 0 (zero) posts

If we don't set rules, it allows 590 people a chance to enter the contests, having never contributed to the site.

Yeah, there are 35 of you that will feel robbed, but you'll get there. ;)


Good job Chris....I guess this is what some of us were trying to point out.

[Jacobs Dad]

Excellent info on the stats. Even with those 55 people being over 100 posts, We have maybe 20 of those that you see regular posting on. Although "Diel" is the exception. He doesn't post that often, but when he does it is about as informative as you get.

[Nakkers]

:hail::iagree:

[TX Repsol]

Excellent info on the stats. Even with those 55 people being over 100 posts, We have maybe 20 of those that you see regular posting on. Although "Diel" is the exception. He doesn't post that often, but when he does it is about as informative as you get.

That's really the tough part... there will most definitely be a handful that don't make the cut that should be allowed to enter. But if you make one exception, the rule is negated for everyone else...

[DarkStarsRepsol]

So what are the Rules for entering a Giveaway? This months rule is a minimal of 100 postings? What will be next months giveaway rule? With a Member Count of only 680 members and 55 with over 100 postings how fair is a minimal of 100 postings. I for one come on here to read technical information pertaining to my Repsol, but hardly post. Yes, I have only been a member since March 08, but 100 minimal postings is kind of high. I have been moderating a forum for over 6 years with a member count up over 14,000 members, 6800 active members and our Site Giveaway Rule is a 1) Site Supporter Contributer 2) 50 Minimal Postings to enter.

[TX Repsol]

.... post continued from another thread.

The "100 post minimum" rule was established while BK was away for a while, so we'll see if the rule stands once he resumes the giveaways.

And I agree with rsxscrazy - I would like to see a rule that one must own a Repsol before being allowed to enter a contest to win bike-specific prizes. If the giveaway is a shirt, or banner, maybe it's different. But if the giveaway is specific to the Repsol CBR1000RR, you should have said bike in possession before entering. I think that should be part of the rule.

[anthonyl]

Personally...I think the 100 post rule will only encourage people to post absolute drivvel in order to get their post count up. People who are courteous and helpful and who make informative and good suggestions should be the ones who benefit, not people who simply write nonsence in every thread.

Maybe that is too hard to police, I dont know.


Just my 2 cents worth.

[Bdendad]

.... post continued from another thread.

The "100 post minimum" rule was established while BK was away for a while, so we'll see if the rule stands once he resumes the giveaways.

And I agree with rsxscrazy - I would like to see a rule that one must own a Repsol before being allowed to enter a contest to win bike-specific prizes. If the giveaway is a shirt, or banner, maybe it's different. But if the giveaway is specific to the Repsol CBR1000RR, you should have said bike in possession before entering. I think that should be part of the rule.

I agree Chris. At a minimum it should be REPSOL owners.:cool:

[cowboyadam]

Personally...I think the 100 post rule will only encourage people to post absolute drivvel in order to get their post count up. People who are courteous and helpful and who make informative and good suggestions should be the ones who benefit, not people who simply write nonsence in every thread.

Maybe that is too hard to police, I dont know.


Just my 2 cents worth.

Ding ding ding... Tell him whats hes won :evilgrin: I havent noticed noobs doing that lately

and while talking about give-a-ways... :rolleyes:

And TX, valid points as always. Now we just need to know what all the cool $hit BK is giving

away and if Im ever going to win any of it :confused2: ;)

[Hondaman69]

.... post continued from another thread.

And I agree with rsxscrazy - I would like to see a rule that one must own a Repsol before being allowed to enter a contest to win bike-specific prizes. If the giveaway is a shirt, or banner, maybe it's different. But if the giveaway is specific to the Repsol CBR1000RR, you should have said bike in possession before entering. I think that should be part of the rule.

I agree with you tex that is why I always want someone that actually has the bike to be able to get the goodies. Hence that is why I do not enter for now.

[OLDZMAN]

I dont think 100 post is to much to ask for. You could probably have 50 or more over a 6 month period just saying:welcome: I also see no need for people to win Repsol paraphernelia when you dont own A Repsol. All I know is lets have fun with it and let the:party: begin:nana::banana:applause: OH and thanks BK this forum kicks A$$:D

[krzbrit]

Since this is after all a REPSOL board, got to agree with TX.

At a minimum, the rules should be:

MUST own a Repsol...not a picture of one, or the 1/12th model..a REAL bike with verifiable pic/vin#

At least 6 months since your "join" date.

At least 6 months since you won a give-away.

100 post minimum.

3 thread "starts" minimum. (Excluding the "I'm new here" thread)

That should keep out the riff-raff and opportunists.

Regards,
KB.

[Repsol47]

Personally...I think the 100 post rule will only encourage people to post absolute drivvel in order to get their post count up. People who are courteous and helpful and who make informative and good suggestions should be the ones who benefit, not people who simply write nonsence in every thread.

Maybe that is too hard to police, I dont know.


Just my 2 cents worth.

Ding ding ding... Tell him whats hes won :evilgrin: I havent noticed noobs doing that lately

and while talking about give-a-ways... :rolleyes:

And TX, valid points as always. Now we just need to know what all the cool BK is giving

away and if Im ever going to win any of it :confused2: ;)

Thats because there hasnt been anything given away lately.
Just wait until there is....and then watch.

[TX Repsol]

Thats because there has been anything given away lately.
Just wait until there is....and then watch.

I think HH's post was a dose of sarcasm Anthony - there are a few members posting like crazy lately, though I don't think it's to intentionally jack their post count through the roof.

[Repsol47]

I think HH's post was a dose of sarcasm Anthony - there are a few members posting like crazy lately, though I don't think it's to intentionally jack their post count through the roof.

Sorry, didnt mean it to apply to the noobs that have been recently posting.
This was for alot of the "1 post wonders" who jumped in on the giveaways....where are they now?

[cowboyadam]

I think HH's post was a dose of sarcasm Anthony - there are a few members posting like crazy lately, though I don't think it's to intentionally jack their post count through the roof.

He quoted my post and there was definately a huge dose of sarcasm in that one ;)

[TX Repsol]

He quoted my post and there was definately a huge dose of sarcasm in that one ;)

Duh :shortbus: