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krzbrit
March 11th, 2008, 07:59 PM
Fellow Repsol'ers
Ok, need some help. Lately the bike has started to "fall in" to corners too easily, almost unnervingly. Also, the overall handling is just feeling "off".
I checked out the latest tire pressure thread, and adjusted according. It's helped somewhat.
If you're under 200lbs, you probably can't help me. I'm 5'-10, 220.
I'm running the bone-stock settings from the factory. Tire pressure is 32/35 per Bk's recommendation, with one psi less in the back, since he's got 30lbs on me.
I don't ride the track (yet), so this is ride to work and canyons settings I'm looking for.
Just the basics please...preload,compression/rebound, static sag...I don't want to f*** with ride height and dropping/raising the forks just yet. That can come later.
Anyone??
2007, 1900 miles, P.Diablo tires (stock)
Regards,
Colin.
aka KrzBrit
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GothMog
March 11th, 2008, 11:40 PM
I'm in the same boat as far as still using the stock settings....which by the way were probably set for some skinny person.I've tried to read and understand the proper way to set your sag...but its all greek to me.I guess the best thing to do is go to a shop and it set up for you.I thought I saw that some dealerships sometimes sponsor suspension clinics...at least I thought I saw it at a local BMW shop awhile back.Other option is to use the settings from some of our fellow meatier Repsol brothers.Post up those settings tubbys.
Jacobs Dad
March 12th, 2008, 05:25 AM
Not to steal your thread, but I am 6' 4" and around 220. My tire pressure is set at 42 front and back, is this too much? Everything else is stock settings. :confused2:
SIXDOG
March 12th, 2008, 06:42 AM
Hey Colin, I'm 5' 11' at 200 lbs and I have Bridgestones with 1600 miles on them. I am using the " BK " settings and it seems fine to me....then again I probably don't ride as hard as you guys......
USA Saffa
March 12th, 2008, 10:58 AM
I am 6ft 240lbs of ripped steak pies and guinness. Any info on suspension setting/tire pressure would help.
Figured the bike is set up for some salad eater too (that is not to say I do not enjoy munching the odd lettuce leaf).
fredie
March 12th, 2008, 04:48 PM
(Very) Fast road settings for 2004-2005 CBR1000rr Fireblade
Forks:
Preload: 6 turns in from fully off (1 turn out from standard)
Rebound: 2.25 out from fully in (smooth roads), 2.5 out (rougher conditions)
Compression: 2 out from fully in (smooth), 2.25 out (rougher)
Forks 3-5mm through the yokes
Shock:
Preload: Fifth step from fully off (Smooth), 4th from off (Rough)
Rebound: 3 turns out from fully in
Compression: 16 clicks out from fully in (though this is way to soft for on a track)
Wheelbase shorter by two-up rear sprocket on standard length chain
Note:
-This will make the blade feel like a bag 'o ****e on a neutral throttle, under the national speed limit; but is perfect for the road race type of riding - i.e. very hard on the throttle, stable over b-road surfaces. Turns a bit quicker than standard, but much more stable on full throttle over bumpy roads.
-If you find the shock feels too soft, you're probably not using the throttle hard enough (no, i'm not trying to be funny..!)
-It will feel pretty grim on a short cicuit; but then that's not what my fireblade is set up to do.
NB - suspension set-up as always is a personal preference sort-of-a-thing...
im no-ware near those settings, but i do use Ohlin’s springs in the front, and ive changed the oil as well, but im like down to 1 an a quarter turns out from fully in , on both rebound and compression, and it makes the front feel really precise, which does suit me, but we do all have different taste and feel in our bikes. my pre load is set to fully out but i do use harder springs, i was having issues with the forks rebounding to quick so im had to go to such a stiff rebound setting, it is a little harsh on compression when its cold but feel great now.
I have also fitted an Ohlin’s rear shock as well and that has helped no end,
some suggestions for track settings for an 06 CBR 1000 RR
For the track the front end was left alone - we couldn't really improve on it (the '06 blade has slightly higher rated springs than the previous model)
The shock, like the previous incarnation, has a ridiculous amount of rebound as standard; and packs down over rough roads making the bike hard to turn. Push down on the seat and look how slow it is to come back up!
We took about a turn of rebound off, maybe more; although the Baron did increase it again slightly when the shock got warmer.
Compression damping was increased a bit on the shock, by about half a turn I think, but I found this a bit hard (the Baron is a bit heavier than me though)
Preload was left standard at both ends - though the shock is about as pre-loaded as you would like, and may benefit from more sag (i.e. less preload) if you find the back a bit loose under braking; particularly with so much rebound as standard and no slipper clutch.
So, in summary, we left the forks alone, on the shock we reduced rebound damping by about a turn, increased compression by 1/2 turn, and you could reduce preload if you find it a problem.
Good luck!
Radicalr6
June 19th, 2008, 11:02 PM
Every person has their own correct settings, you need to set the sag...Do your own research on how to do this.. Also a quick test is this... Hold the front brake and push down on the bars, the bike is supposed to dip and come back up and stay... For me the stock settings used to go down come back up and dip again.. This is wrong...
squidracer
June 19th, 2008, 11:24 PM
Ask and Ye shall receive!!! Excelent article. Don't forget to put on all of your gear and have a couple of buddies help.
http://www.sportrider.com/tech/146_0402_susp/index.html
Big Kahuna
June 20th, 2008, 08:45 AM
Not to steal your thread, but I am 6' 4" and around 220. My tire pressure is set at 42 front and back, is this too much? Everything else is stock settings. :confused2:I'd say that's pretty high bro. I'm 6'5" 250 and I usually run 38 rear and 34 front. If I'm I only hitting the twisties, I'll drop that down a few pounds for each wheel.
I would do some tests. Ride a loop with your current settings, then drop the pressure a bit and ride it again. See if you can tell the difference. I think you will. Also, you might want to think about upgrading your rear shock. I didn't want to spend the money on a whole new ohlins or penske, so I had Mike at CTSmoto upgrade my stock shock with a new spring. :)
http://www.repsolforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=25
I had the bike checked out by Dave Moss at Laguna and he was able to set the bike up for my weight with the stock front forks and my upgraded shock. He said adding the stiffer spring in the back really made the difference.
Big Kahuna
June 20th, 2008, 08:50 AM
Fellow Repsol'ers
Ok, need some help. Lately the bike has started to "fall in" to corners too easily, almost unnervingly. Also, the overall handling is just feeling "off".
I checked out the latest tire pressure thread, and adjusted according. It's helped somewhat.
If you're under 200lbs, you probably can't help me. I'm 5'-10, 220.
I'm running the bone-stock settings from the factory. Tire pressure is 32/35 per Bk's recommendation, with one psi less in the back, since he's got 30lbs on me.
I don't ride the track (yet), so this is ride to work and canyons settings I'm looking for.
Just the basics please...preload,compression/rebound, static sag...I don't want to f*** with ride height and dropping/raising the forks just yet. That can come later.
Anyone??
2007, 1900 miles, P.Diablo tires (stock)
You know, those tires are a year old now. I think you are going through what I went threw when I bought my bike. It still had the stock diablos on there and the bike was sliding all over the place. I swapped the diablos for a new set of pilot powers and never looked back.
Radical Rich
June 20th, 2008, 03:09 PM
Thanks BK Im heading to he garage now to adj tire pressure. Im6/4 214. I need to find out more about the rear spring you were talking about. I asked my dealer long time ago , they said oh don't worry they are set right from the factory. I said soooo Im 215 lbs and 6/4 vs 5/9 160lbs and use the same set up? BS. Dude has no answer. Im really not happy with the people at the dealer for tech stuff at all. All they want to do is sell if it's good for you or not. I know I could use some better settings. I will start some homework.
goracer
June 20th, 2008, 05:26 PM
Dude, you're in the OC. Easy to take care of. 07 springs are too soft for your weight. Easily sell the spring to some light weight guys. Racetech is in Riverside about a half hour ride but they are only open during the week. Have them repsring the rear and change the fluid int he front then sag settings. If you want I have two 05 shocks, you can use those springs. I'll trade ya for lunch. http://www.racetech.com/
With the 07 shock I have the settings at 1/3 compression and rebound. I went two clicks stiffer for preload. You will need at least three clicks more the stock. You are better off changing the spring though but at least change the preload. Oh i'm 5-10 & 190lbs.
Radicalr6
September 25th, 2008, 01:19 AM
I like my ride to be firm and stiff on canyons, but when its as stiff as i want them to be, on regular riding, i feel every little bump. Im 6"2 160
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