Wheel paint issue [Archive]

6speed

March 1st, 2007, 12:02 PM

Just curious if any of you guys with 05s have experienced this wheel paint issue people talk about or not. From what I hear, some can clean their wheels with even the mildest of cleaners and orange paint will still rub off onto the towel or rag. Mine has not done this, however I've only had to clean them once and I've barely ridden it so I cannot say for sure. Has anyone had this happen? Also curious to know if they've fixed this for the 07?

cb1974

March 1st, 2007, 12:16 PM

Never happened on my 05. I have have cleaned them a bunch of times with honda polish.

Big Kahuna

March 1st, 2007, 12:19 PM

Thanks for posting this up Scott.

I was wondering the same thing. I've seen a few guys from other sites have complained about this issue and have even created a partition to Honda. I've cleaned my wheels with everything from simple green to plain old soap and water.

Whatever you do, keep rubbing alcohol away from you black frame as it will remove the finish faster than you might think! Don't ask me how I know bout that. :(

6speed

March 1st, 2007, 12:37 PM

Never happened on my 05. I have have cleaned them a bunch of times with honda polish.
have you tried your 07 yet?
Thanks for posting this up Scott.

I was wondering the same thing. I've seen a few guys from other sites have complained about this issue and have even created a partition to Honda. I've cleaned my wheels with everything from simple green to plain old soap and water.

Whatever you do, keep rubbing alcohol away from you black frame as it will remove the finish faster than you might think! Don't ask me how I know bout that. :(
oh man :( im temped to ask how this couldve happened but i fear it is a touchy subject :p

cb1974

March 1st, 2007, 01:13 PM

Yes...Already cleaned the rims on the 07 a couple of times with honda polish and i had no problems.

diel11

March 1st, 2007, 03:05 PM

My 05 did it from the get go, got new rims from Honda, same thing. Found out the first time I went to clean the new chain gunk off the rear rim. Didn't even put any muscle into it and the rag came back yellowish.

silvercbr

March 1st, 2007, 06:29 PM

highside

March 1st, 2007, 09:15 PM

Every time I clean them, I get a little orange on my cloth. Its all yellow underneath. lol I'm gonna save up 2 grand and call CTS :)

diel11

March 2nd, 2007, 12:12 AM

If mine starts to do it, I will just take them off and have my father who paints cars wet sand them and clear them. It is possible to clearcoat over powerdercoat and this would protect the rims for all the road grim, cleaners, and chain lube. My guess is Honda has since fixed the problem, they may of had a bad batch of orange powder when they were coated.

The issue is they are not powder coated. They are painted without clear coat. If they were powder coated it wouldn't happen. You would be surprised how many manufacturers don't powder coat anything on your bike. They either paint and clear or anodize. My gixxer wheels and frame are powder coated now and I can hammer any of the surfaces without taking anything off. Before that, they were painted. My old R1, friend's ZX-10, painted.

silvercbr

March 2nd, 2007, 09:02 AM

The issue is they are not powder coated. They are painted without clear coat. If they were powder coated it wouldn't happen. You would be surprised how many manufacturers don't powder coat anything on your bike. They either paint and clear or anodize. My gixxer wheels and frame are powder coated now and I can hammer any of the surfaces without taking anything off. Before that, they were painted. My old R1, friend's ZX-10, painted.

Why don't they powdercoat. It is more durable and flexible. It would be nice to at least do the wheels, that way they won't chip when doing tire changes.

6speed

March 2nd, 2007, 09:10 AM

Why don't they powdercoat. It is more durable and flexible. It would be nice to at least do the wheels, that way they won't chip when doing tire changes.
$$$

Big Kahuna

March 2nd, 2007, 10:17 AM

Weight? :)

Thomkat

March 3rd, 2007, 01:54 PM

I have never had an issue with my '05 rims. I waxed them, with Meguiars GOLD CLASS liquid clearcoat wax, when it was new and just dry wipe them down after every ride.

The car wax seems to keep the chain wax and brake dust from sticking too well. I re-apply new car wax every two rides or so.

fredie

February 16th, 2008, 08:25 PM

my paint comes off on too the rag i use too clean:eek:

Hondaman69

February 16th, 2008, 09:57 PM

So what is the best thing someone can do to their wheels after they purchase their new Repsol to keep this from happening?:confused2:

Chuck

February 16th, 2008, 11:22 PM

So what is the best thing someone can do to their wheels after they purchase their new Repsol to keep this from happening?:confused2:

I have seen threads that suggest, cleaning with PH neutral carwash but I find this does not do much for removing chain lube, application of WD40 or similar is apparenlty also a good cleaner that does not affect the finish - however gotta watch out for getting it on the tyres & brake discs of course. This sounds like a short term fix..... and still does not allow you to polish your wheels without ending up with an orange rag.
One option might be to go for a polymer product polish. These products are marketed as "paint protection" for cars and effectively what it does is create a protective layer between the paint and the atmoshphere surounding it. Again this is a short term fix and will drive you bananas if you have to re-apply every 6 months.
I note powdercoating was mentiond too......I wouldn't do it. In my line of work I have seen more than a few electrical switch board cabinets painted "X15" Orange. The powder does fade over time, unless it is clear coated, and it does not give as nice a finish as paint......(there is a miriad of other reasons powder should be a last resort - let me know if you really want to hear the detail)

My personal intention is to have my wheels cleaned and sprayed with a clear to protect the paint, when the bike gets it's first set of tyres. .....Peel the tyres off, have the clear applied and new set go on after......

Any idea what the outcome of this petition was :confused2:
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/854307111

xrcrx

February 16th, 2008, 11:30 PM

I had the same issue with my wheels. the dealer goet turned down by Honda, told me to take it up with them myself. I was able to catch up with a Honda rep at a local dealer, he refused to look at them-said i had no problem and he couldn't look at it. I argued it all the way up the chain and was finally told they'd do nothing and that was just tough-i had no recourse. I sent a video and a letter-no reply. I told them my recourse was to NEVER buy another Honda product. I absolutely love the bike but I hate both the local dealer network and the Honda reps.

GothMog

February 16th, 2008, 11:43 PM

Aussierepso7

February 17th, 2008, 03:34 AM

My Cz's are powder coated and IMHO look better then paint and I have save enough in weight with the Cz's to not worry about a little powder coating:evilgrin:

Hondaman69

February 17th, 2008, 09:32 AM

My personal intention is to have my wheels cleaned and sprayed with a clear to protect the paint, when the bike gets it's first set of tyres. .....Peel the tyres off, have the clear applied and new set go on after......

If you did this then how long would the clear coat last, and would it add alot of additional weight to the wheel?:confused2:

Chuck

February 17th, 2008, 12:47 PM

If you did this then how long would the clear coat last, and would it add alot of additional weight to the wheel?:confused2:

As far as longevity goes, I would expect it to last as long as the bike itself, or close to it. If you have a good look at your tank on your Repsol it has been clear coated, I would do the wheels in the same stuff, and probably get it done by someone that does "custome paint" or prestige panel repairs. Both operators would use good quality clears that are UV stable, and protect the finish underneath without harming the original colour.

Not sure on the weight, but my estimate is around 0.75kg (1.65lbs) to the bike - if anyone out there has different numbers please share . I know for some guys out there weight is consideration, spending big money on light weight parts, however for me not so much.;)

TX Repsol

February 17th, 2008, 01:50 PM

So what is the best thing someone can do to their wheels after they purchase their new Repsol to keep this from happening?:confused2:

A set of these!

:D4253:D 4254:D

Hondaman69

February 17th, 2008, 05:40 PM

A set of these!

:D4253:D 4254:D

yah and I bet they come with a real nice price tag too.:eek:

GothMog

February 17th, 2008, 07:51 PM

A set of these!

:D4253:D 4254:D

Very nice...but what a PITA to clean.
Instead of 3 spokes to clean....you now have 12.

TX Repsol

February 18th, 2008, 06:43 PM

Very nice...but what a PITA to clean.
Instead of 3 spokes to clean....you now have 12.

True, but I would rather clean 12 beautiful spokes than 3 spokes in the ugliest wheel to ever grace a sport bike...

Honda needs to do something about the stock wheels. They've used the same outdated design for umpteen bazillion years now... hideous.

hondapowered

February 18th, 2008, 10:27 PM

So TX are you starting a new thread here for a GROUP buy??? Marchesini or Carrozerria (hope I spelled them right)

The Marchesni were already up $250 from the 2005 set and another $400 on the 2006??? SO how does a repsol guy get some bad arse light wieght racing wheels a good price?

Yes you guys are sick of me by now, Yes the bike is in the shop for a week, Yes I am in front of the damn computer commenting on everything and not on 2 wheels :mad: Sucks to be me so I guess I have to torture you guys who get to ride this week :evilgrin:

fredie

February 19th, 2008, 02:32 AM

even r1 r6 wheels are 6 or 7 spoke:confused2:

hondahoon

February 19th, 2008, 02:37 AM

even r1 r6 wheels are 6 or 7 spoke:confused2:

wrong nooob get ya facts right

my R6=3spoke
mates R6=5 spoke

:evilgrin::evilgrin::evilgrin::evilgrin::evilgrin::evilgrin::p:p:p:p:p:p

HH

fredie

February 19th, 2008, 02:56 AM

your a noobie . you sandgropper:D

TX Repsol

February 19th, 2008, 06:45 AM

So TX are you starting a new thread here for a GROUP buy??? Marchesini or Carrozerria (hope I spelled them right)

There was a bit of a group buy right here on the repsolforum around September of 2007. That's when I bought the wheels, for a price that I'm probably not allowed to publicly advertise. There were several sets available. I believe one or two other members took advantage...

Serach for Carrozzerria (sp?) or CZ wheel, you'll find the thread, if interested. Maybe he's still got a set left?

Hondaman69

February 19th, 2008, 09:44 AM

There was a bit of a group buy right here on the repsolforum around September of 2007. That's when I bought the wheels, for a price that I'm probably not allowed to publicly advertise. There were several sets available. I believe one or two other members took advantage...

Serach for Carrozzerria (sp?) or CZ wheel, you'll find the thread, if interested. Maybe he's still got a set left?

Here is the Thread you are talking about. Looks like it said last chance, but I'm sure it won't hurt to check it out.

http://www.repsolforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1114&highlight=cz+wheel

TX Repsol

March 29th, 2008, 11:31 PM

So I stripped the bike tonight - time for a deep clean. Took the wheels off and pulled the rotors so I could really clean the wheels... and found this.

4983 4984 4985

After I :crybaby: for a minute, I felt like I was going to :puke:.

Now I'm pretty much :sadbanana:, got to contact the seller and see if there's any sort of warranty on the powdercoating. Only had these puppies for 6 months.

GothMog

March 29th, 2008, 11:36 PM

Yikes...thats why I dont make the jump to expensive rims with powdercoat.
If they were stockers...I wouldnt feel too bad.

But after spending some hard earned coin for those and then to find that...arghhhhhhhhhhh

TX Repsol

March 29th, 2008, 11:40 PM

Yikes...thats why I dont make the jump to expensive rims with powdercoat.

That's the whole point - powder coat is supposed to be somewhat permanent. Here I've had 'em for 6 months and I find this. Kinda of disappointing. You can see in the pic where the powder coating was very, very thin at that inside corner, right next to where it chipped.

GothMog

March 29th, 2008, 11:44 PM

I was gonna say that looked thinner than a used HH kleenex....but we all know what he uses those for.

Those the rims you got on the group buy...from Mike?

Nakkers

March 30th, 2008, 12:04 AM

Hope they look after you somehow with that TX what a piss off :eek:

hondapowered

March 30th, 2008, 05:38 PM

:mad: dammitt man those were carrozzeria?

TX Repsol

March 30th, 2008, 07:27 PM

I was gonna say that looked thinner than a used HH kleenex....but we all know what he uses those for.

Those the rims you got on the group buy...from Mike?

Hope they look after you somehow with that TX what a piss off :eek:

:mad: dammitt man those were carrozzeria?

Yes, yes, and yes. Gonna be out of town for a few days. Might be able to contact Mike tomorrow before I leave...

Chuck

March 30th, 2008, 07:39 PM

That's the whole point - powder coat is supposed to be somewhat permanent. Here I've had 'em for 6 months and I find this. Kinda of disappointing. You can see in the pic where the powder coating was very, very thin at that inside corner, right next to where it chipped.

bummer dude..........

This is excalty what I was refering to in my post #16 in this thread.........

Powder coat is:
Porous
Chips easily
Is hard to repair

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Powder_coating

Because it is applied as a powder, via elctrostatic charge and baked, the thickness gains and speed of application are great, however because of the porous nature it can and will let moisture through and over time may fade.

I would suggest that the problem you see here, lack of adhesion in the corner, is due to the nature of the application. Since powder coat is electostaticlly applied, a electric field is created in small tight corners and powder coverage in these areas can be compromised because of the field actually repelling rather than attracting the powder particles.......much like playing with like poled magnets - thet just don't want to go together.

Sure it will bake and look like it is all sweet, however over time, with perhaps moisture ingress and just the working of the pain surface through operation and heat and cold, problems can become evident.

What would be interesting is to see how many wheels suffer the same fate.

How old are your wheels and how many miles have they done?

TX Repsol

March 30th, 2008, 07:41 PM

How old are your wheels and how many miles have they done?

Put 'em on in October, have less than 1,000 miles on them.

And thanks for the informative post!

GothMog

March 30th, 2008, 07:45 PM

bummer dude..........

This is excalty what I was refering to in my post #16 in this thread.........

Powder coat is:
Porous
Chips easily
Is hard to repair

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Powder_coating

Because it is applied as a powder, via elctrostatic charge and baked, the thickness gains and speed of application are great, however because of the porous nature it can and will let moisture through and over time may fade.

I would suggest that the problem you see here, lack of adhesion in the corner, is due to the nature of the application. Since powder coat is electostaticlly applied, a electric field is created in small tight corners and powder coverage in these areas can be compromised because of the field actually repelling rather than attracting the powder particles.......much like playing with like poled magnets - thet just don't want to go together.

Sure it will bake and look like it is all sweet, however over time, with perhaps moisture ingress and just the working of the pain surface through operation and heat and cold, problems can become evident.

What would be interesting is to see how many wheels suffer the same fate.

How old are your wheels and how many miles have they done?

WOW...Well said.
I truly educated man we have here.....total opposite of that other aussie, HH.:p

cowboyadam

March 31st, 2008, 05:50 PM

WOW...Well said.
I truly educated man we have here.....total opposite of that other aussie, fredie.:p

Fixed :evilgrin:

I think that one post was more useful than all of freds combined.

RepsolBlade07

March 31st, 2008, 08:50 PM

[QUOTE=6speed;1203]have you tried your 07 yet?

Nope, 07 wheels doesn't seem to have this problem. I've used various cleaning solutions without any probs. :)

Roadrunner

April 1st, 2008, 01:30 AM

[QUOTE=6speed;1203]have you tried your 07 yet?

Nope, 07 wheels doesn't seem to have this problem. I've used various cleaning solutions without any probs. :)

My 07 wheels have the same problem..:mad: Initially thought it was due the rims being new but now after 4 months it's still happening and that can't be normal. I have contacted the dealer and they have asked me to bring the bike around to have a look. Would be interesting to see what Honda's response is going to be..:confused2: I would like to see 2 x new wheels coming my way but I doubt whether that will be the case...Will keep you posted once I have their verdict.

fredie

April 1st, 2008, 03:08 AM

Chuck

April 1st, 2008, 04:17 AM

.........contacted the dealer and they have asked me to bring the bike around to have a look. Would be interesting to see what Honda's response is going to be..:confused2: I would like to see 2 x new wheels coming my way but I doubt whether that will be the case...

That would be the right thing to do but somehow I don't like your chances - see this .....http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/854307111

I'm guessing if Honda were as accomodating as we might hope there would have been no need for this petition........

My 05 is getting a repaint and clear coat when it gets it's first set of tyres.....:mad:

Jacobs Dad

April 1st, 2008, 05:35 AM

yes i have my bike since new . my 05 wheels the paint has come off so much near the lip . u can the undercoat:eek:brokeback mountain cowboy & repsol47mm lovers . with one is the receiver:evilgrin::evilgrin::D

TX is gonna love this one :eek:

FYI, if you do need to redo the wheels, powder coat them, don't paint them. It will last a lot longer.

Roadrunner

April 1st, 2008, 06:16 AM

TX is gonna love this one :eek:

FYI, if you do need to redo the wheels, powder coat them, don't paint them. It will last a lot longer.

Was my thoughts exactly until I saw this response from xxxxx eralier in the thread..:eek:

*********************
Originally Posted by Chuck
bummer dude..........

This is excalty what I was refering to in my post #16 in this thread.........

Powder coat is:
Porous
Chips easily
Is hard to repair

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Powder_coating

Because it is applied as a powder, via elctrostatic charge and baked, the thickness gains and speed of application are great, however because of the porous nature it can and will let moisture through and over time may fade.

I would suggest that the problem you see here, lack of adhesion in the corner, is due to the nature of the application. Since powder coat is electostaticlly applied, a electric field is created in small tight corners and powder coverage in these areas can be compromised because of the field actually repelling rather than attracting the powder particles.......much like playing with like poled magnets - thet just don't want to go together.

Sure it will bake and look like it is all sweet, however over time, with perhaps moisture ingress and just the working of the pain surface through operation and heat and cold, problems can become evident.

What would be interesting is to see how many wheels suffer the same fate.

How old are your wheels and how many miles have they done?

*************

How does one decide which way to go..:confused2:

Jacobs Dad

April 1st, 2008, 08:12 AM

Was my thoughts exactly until I saw this response from xxxxx eralier in the thread..:eek:

*********************
Originally Posted by Chuck
bummer dude..........

This is excalty what I was refering to in my post #16 in this thread.........

Powder coat is:
Porous
Chips easily
Is hard to repair

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Powder_coating

Because it is applied as a powder, via elctrostatic charge and baked, the thickness gains and speed of application are great, however because of the porous nature it can and will let moisture through and over time may fade.

I would suggest that the problem you see here, lack of adhesion in the corner, is due to the nature of the application. Since powder coat is electostaticlly applied, a electric field is created in small tight corners and powder coverage in these areas can be compromised because of the field actually repelling rather than attracting the powder particles.......much like playing with like poled magnets - thet just don't want to go together.

Sure it will bake and look like it is all sweet, however over time, with perhaps moisture ingress and just the working of the pain surface through operation and heat and cold, problems can become evident.

What would be interesting is to see how many wheels suffer the same fate.

How old are your wheels and how many miles have they done?

*************

How does one decide which way to go..:confused2:

BK has powder coated wheels. How are they doing BK?

goracer

April 8th, 2008, 08:47 PM

Mine does this on my '05. As someone stated already they "never" put any clear coat over them. I wish I would have realized this or that they would have mentioned it in the owners manual as I would have applied polish and then a sealer. I would have also had them clear coated when the the tires were off before putting new ones on. Mine are really bad now. So much so that I don't wash my bike every day anymore because I don't want to see orange paint on the sponge and towel. I use expensive car was soap that is mild, btw. :mad:

hondapowered

April 8th, 2008, 09:29 PM

very true I am with ya on that but I do use the turtle wax bug and tar remover during the washing and then meguiars gold class after they are dry seems to help alot but I will powdercoat when I can :p

TX Repsol

April 9th, 2008, 06:55 AM

FYI, if you do need to redo the wheels, powder coat them, don't paint them. It will last a lot longer.

These are the same wheels BK is running, and yes they are powdercoated... hence the reason I'm so surprised to see it flake off like it did.

Jacobs Dad

April 9th, 2008, 07:03 AM

These are the same wheels BK is running, and yes they are powdercoated... hence the reason I'm so surprised to see it flake off like it did.

Are you saying BK has trouble with his CZ wheels? Just curious since I bought that last set, just haven't put them on yet.

TX Repsol

April 9th, 2008, 07:05 AM

Are you saying BK has trouble with his CZ wheels? Just curious since I bought that last set, just haven't put them on yet.

No, I'm saying I have the exact same set of wheels as BK. And if you bought CZ's from the deal posted on the forum last September (I think), then you and I have the exact same set of wheels.

Take a look at the inside corners of the wheels, where the spokes meet the rim, and see if there are any areas where the powdercoating seems thin. You'll notice that the orange color is a little thin and you can see dark specks in it... if you see that, you may run into the same problem I have.

Jacobs Dad

April 9th, 2008, 07:08 AM

No, I'm saying I have the exact same set of wheels as BK. And if you bought CZ's from the deal posted on the forum last September (I think), then you and I have the exact same set of wheels.

Take a look at the inside corners of the wheels, where the spokes meet the rim, and see if there are any areas where the powdercoating seems thin. You'll notice that the orange color is a little thin and you can see dark specks in it... if you see that, you may run into the same problem I have.

Not to be ignorant, I am assuming your paint is not coming off, but flaking in the thin areas?

TX Repsol

April 9th, 2008, 07:11 AM

Not to be ignorant, I am assuming your paint is not coming off, but flaking in the thin areas?

Well, first off, it's not paint. It's powdercoat, very different than regular paint. Heck, it's supposed to be much stronger than paint and virtually indestructible.

And yes, it's flaking off in the thin areas at the inside corners.

Read Chuck's post (#39) above. It explains why this happens with powdercoating. Makes sense to me.

Now I just have to figure out how to fix it. Can't live with the flaking...

Jacobs Dad

April 9th, 2008, 07:29 AM

Well, first off, it's not paint. It's powdercoat, very different than regular paint. Heck, it's supposed to be much stronger than paint and virtually indestructible.

And yes, it's flaking off in the thin areas at the inside corners.

Read Chuck's post (#39) above. It explains why this happens with powdercoating. Makes sense to me.

Now I just have to figure out how to fix it. Can't live with the flaking...

Isn't it as simple as taking it to a powder coat company and getting them to redo it? I guess the hard part is matching the color. Maybe mike who originally did them could point you in the right direction.

6speed

April 11th, 2008, 11:19 AM

i was a little late on the group by but the same set of wheels...my original ones had some damage on the lip area in the powdercoat. it would look like dark tar lines going side to side but would not clean or come off no matter what. mike replaced them and shipped out new ones before i even sent them back. im sure whatever the issue is it will get resolved for you.

Repsol 07

April 16th, 2008, 08:22 PM

Hello All,

Sorry this maybe a repeat question but I have tried 2 cleaners (S100 & Motorcycle stuff spray and polish) which was suggested on the wheel cleaning post.

Both of these turned a white cloth yellowish, any suggestion what works best for cleaning and removing grease without damaging the paint? :confused2:

On the other post the next things to try is RainX bug remover, Simple green some suggested gas although not sure about that one. :(

PS Meguiar's detailer spray wax is good although it doesn't take off grease that well.

Thanks.

Repsol 07

April 16th, 2008, 08:52 PM

Anyone tried this?

Pinnacle Gel Wheel Cleaner clings to the surfaces of the tire and the wheel. It loosens and emulsifies the dirt and brake dust accumulated from the roadway environment. Oils, grime and brake dust all are captured, lifted and rinsed away with this new cleaning technology.

Pinnacle Gel Wheel Cleaner has been made possible through the latest in chemically engineered, safe detergents. These environmentally safe detergents were developed first to meet and exceed stringent environmental laws in Europe. They are highly concentrated and applied with a “zero-ozone” hand pump spray applicator. You need no longer worry about overspray because, unlike outdated tire cleaners, Pinnacle Gel Wheel Cleaner is paint-safe and will not damage your finish.

TX Repsol

April 16th, 2008, 09:01 PM

I bought a foam wheel cleaner a week or so ago, pulled the wheels off the bike, removed the rotors, and got to it.

I almost immediately discovered that every bit of chain lube, road grime, grease, etc. came right off the wheel with a little elbow grease and a white terry cloth. No cleaner needed, and no orange redisue whatsoever... I was amazed (until I got to the rear wheels and found the flake in the pc).

Maybe it has something to do with powdercoating (my wheels are pc'd, for those that are new) vs paint?

Nakkers

April 16th, 2008, 10:25 PM

And what was the outcome with your flaky rear TX :evilgrin::weirdface:

Repsol 07

April 16th, 2008, 10:31 PM

Hello All,

Sorry this maybe a repeat question but I have tried 2 cleaners (S100 & Motorcycle stuff spray and polish) which was suggested on the wheel cleaning post.

Both of these turned a white cloth yellowish, any suggestion what works best for cleaning and removing grease without damaging the paint?

On the other post the next things to try is RainX bug remover, Simple green some suggested gas although not sure about that one.

PS Meguiar's detailer spray wax is good although it doesn't take off grease that well.

Thanks.

GothMog

April 16th, 2008, 11:07 PM

I use Dawn dish soap to wash the bike....works great on the rims as well.
For stubborn grease or tar...I use Simple Green.
I use full strength....but closely monitor the rim...I dont let it sit, usually spray and work it in with a bug sponge and rinse.

I top it off with Meguiar's spray wax.

Havent had any issues with paint coming off.

GothMog

April 16th, 2008, 11:10 PM

And what was the outcome with your flaky rear TX :evilgrin::weirdface:

Ha Ha....he said flaky rear.:weirdface:

Rammstein

April 16th, 2008, 11:17 PM

For all you Aussie guys
Selleys have released a product called ICE
It is used extensively at the Summer Nats for the car show
You apply wet with a sponge applicator and buff off with supplied rag
Best I have seen, outstanding results
All automotive shops should have it by now

Jacobs Dad

April 17th, 2008, 05:54 AM

The rain X works great. Just spray it on and let it sit for a bit and then use a sponge to break up the chain grease and rinse.

tnine

April 17th, 2008, 11:00 AM

I still use the good ol' Honda Cleaner. It's actually called something else now, but it's still the same thing. Princess has never seen a drop of water. Just my preference.;)

The Doctor

April 17th, 2008, 11:03 AM

Armor All wipes work a treat.

cowboyadam

April 17th, 2008, 03:37 PM

Simple Green works great. Dont need to scrub, just wipe the grease off. Try putting a good coat of

wax on the rims afterwards, saves on clean up the next time.

cowboyadam

April 17th, 2008, 03:47 PM

Ha Ha....he said flaky rear.:weirdface:

Fredie.... Is that you??

6speed

May 1st, 2008, 08:12 AM

i just noticed, someone changed the title of this thread i started last year.. it used to be "wheel paint issue"

TX Repsol

May 1st, 2008, 11:05 AM

i just noticed, someone changed the title of this thread i started last year.. it used to be "wheel paint issue"

I merged a duplicate thread into this one and didn't notice that it kept the name of the new thread. I changed it back.

anthonyl

July 23rd, 2008, 06:18 PM

I too have an 05 Repsol and have a few spots on my rims where the paint is very thin and discoloured.

Does anyone in Australia know where I can get some touch up paint? Or know of any colour that is close to being identical say in a hobby paint like Tamiya?

For the few spots that need touching up its not worth the $300.00 + to get them repainted / podwercoated just yet.

I also tried to create an account at Color Rite but they dont sell to Australia???:confused: (could not create an account).

anthonyl

August 4th, 2008, 12:02 AM

Nakkers

August 4th, 2008, 03:38 AM

Post some pics so we can see how bad yours were :eek:

anthonyl

August 4th, 2008, 03:51 AM

Post some pics so we can see how bad yours were :eek:

Well they were not THAT bad..but everytime I cleaned them I ended up with a yellow rag. There was one section that was completely white and just about the whole circumfrence of the rim there was signs of the dreaded white paint showing through..

A few months from now and Im sure it would have gotten a lot worse.

I dont want to go through life with this bike being afraid to keep it looking as pristine as it is now.

goracer

August 4th, 2008, 02:50 PM

Mine has done that also. So much that I stopped cleaning the wheels. Well I can't stand it dirty. I used to wash it every day with mild car soap and a soft dish sponge but the orange came off on the diapers anyhow and I have a yellow ring. The only problem is I have two spots where I leaked brake fluid so i'm sure they won't pay for mine. If I had known when I bought the bike I would have polished and waxed the wheels as well as clear coated them while they were off the bike for tires.

TX Repsol

August 4th, 2008, 03:27 PM

.....So much that I stopped cleaning the wheels.......

So THAT'S why they were so dirty at Laguna! :evilgrin:

j/k man...

goracer

August 4th, 2008, 03:43 PM

LOL, yes and 10 hours of riding then no place and nothing to clean the bike with. I'm not sure if this pic shows the discoloration or the ring that's turned sorta yellowish around the rim. Having it dirty was too depressing for especially seeing how shiny the Moto GP bikes were. They just used some cleaner in a spray bottle and a paint brush then hosed it off and air dried. Maybe air drying is the secret? So this weekend I washed cleaned and washed again. Then polished and polished. I don't have any wax. Maybe next week. I still need to touch hem up anyhow.

Chuck

August 5th, 2008, 02:26 AM

Roadrunner

August 5th, 2008, 09:03 AM

UPDATE:

Rang Honda Head Office here in Australia and complained about the paint fading on my wheels........they said take it to a dealer and they will have a look and take some pictures...did that.....

Just got word today that Honda has approved a "Repaint" of both of my wheels....all expenses paid.

:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

I have the same problem and rang Honda Head Office in South Africa. The dealer contacted me today and I will be taking the bike in on Monday to have it fixed. Like Anthonyl above they are also going to "Repaint" both wheels with Honda paying for all the exepenses. :D

anthonyl

August 7th, 2008, 06:39 PM

Nice work Dude.......

Which dealer in Brisvegas looked after you?

Teammoto at Springwood....

UPDATE: They are now saying that I will need to pay for 2 hours labour to remove and re-fit the wheels....fair enough I spose..

Will let you know when I get my bike back...they said a week and a half!!

TX Repsol

August 8th, 2008, 08:51 PM

Teammoto at Springwood....

UPDATE: They are now saying that I will need to pay for 2 hours labour to remove and re-fit the wheels....fair enough I spose..

Will let you know when I get my bike back...they said a week and a half!!

If you have the capability, remove the wheels yourself and then let them fix 'em.

I never pay someone to do something I can do in my own garage!

GothMog

August 8th, 2008, 08:56 PM

Taking the wheels off is simple...dont pay to get dat sh it done:D

anthonyl

August 8th, 2008, 09:56 PM

Unfortunately I dont have many tools to do a job like that and when im doing 200 kmh plus I'd like to think that someone who knew what they were doing tightened all the nuts up right.....lol

anthonyl

August 15th, 2008, 03:20 PM

fredie

August 16th, 2008, 02:44 AM

RepsolBladeAndy

August 16th, 2008, 03:54 AM

Hi scott! I have the same problem with my 2005er Repsol.:confused:

cowboyadam

August 16th, 2008, 12:50 PM

Well today Im going to pick the bike up...I spoke (scuse the pun) with the guy who painted the rims and he said that Honda sprayed the rims with 1 layer of undercoat and one layer of paint...to cut costs.He said my rims were a little bit darker than original but hardly noticable.

Will post some pics when I get it back this afternoon.

It pays to go directly to Head Office for gripes like this..and remember ..be polite it gets you a long way!

So your back at square 1 again then. That is the same thing they did from the factory that

caused all the problems to start with. I would take them and get them clear coated now that

the paint is perfect again.

Chuck

August 16th, 2008, 02:23 PM

So your back at square 1 again then. That is the same thing they did from the factory that

caused all the problems to start with. I would take them and get them clear coated now that

the paint is perfect again.

Ditto, like the cowbay said, you risk ending up with the same issues. I guess it all depends how particular you are.

Thanks for keeping us posted on progress.

TX Repsol

August 16th, 2008, 04:45 PM

...I spoke (scuse the pun) with the guy who painted the rims and he said that Honda sprayed the rims with 1 layer of undercoat and one layer of paint...to cut costs....

So your back at square 1 again then. That is the same thing they did from the factory that caused all the problems to start with. I would take them and get them clear coated now that the paint is perfect again.

Ditto, like the cowbay said, you risk ending up with the same issues. I guess it all depends how particular you are.

Thanks for keeping us posted on progress.

Guys - I'm sure he's talking about the original paint job, from the factory, not his new paint job...

fredie

August 17th, 2008, 06:18 AM

how many coats did they spray on this time :)

Roadrunner

December 14th, 2008, 09:02 AM

Has been a while since I mentioned that Honda was going to redo my wheels. Well, they kept their word and repainted them both. Colour is spot on and the quaility excellent and also no more paint coming off when polishing the rims. Thanks Honda S-Africa...:thumbsup: on a job well done.

xrcrx

December 17th, 2008, 08:19 PM

Wish Honda in the States was as customer oriented. Their total lack of concern , help, and at time rudeness on both a corporate and dealer level,was enough for me to decide not to ever purchase from Honda again.I love my Repsol, it isn't going anywhere, but the way they handled myself and others when we tried to get our wheels taken care of was unforgivable.