Inside the bars

[Radical Rich]

I have had a couple pairs of bar ends come loose and didn't figure it out till now. The inside bar/tube inside your handlebars is this. Well anybody know how it is suppose to stay firm and not turn in there. That is what barens screw into. I finally figured it out when it came out when they came loose again. It does not look broken. They rubber end has notches that look like they do something but I look up into the bars and see nothing.:confused2: Anybody?? Sorry may be important it's, throttle side. Thanks!

[Radical Rich]

Opps. Here is said bar/rod. Cant upload pic right now. I will try soon, It would help.

[MogNo1]

Rich....think I have a similar thing happening to you but my Yoshi bar ends have never come loose! One bar end will rotate a whole 360 degrees where as the other only slighty can be rotated in either direction! They aren't loose in there resonably stiff but you can rotate them without popping a hernia! My screw holding them in is still tight as a budgies backside though (Aussie speak)! :D I gather your screw is somehow loosening up? Maybe you need some muscles on those girly arms when you do the screw up?:evilgrin: Possibly putting abit of locktight on the screw thread so when you do your bolt up again it'll stay screwed tight? Just a thought mate!:rolleyes:

[Radical Rich]

No sir, my guns are fit:p The screw tightens into the tube I showed there. The the bar end cranks down with the screw. Once I tighten it the whole dam thing turns inside the bar. That is why the bar end turns even thou the screw is tight. Yours may get worse like mine. With vibration it stars to back out. I think the rubber end in the pic is suppose to grip the inside?:weirdface: Hell Im going to the stealership tomorrow, see what they say. Bet you end up with the same thing. I have been dealing with this for a while.

[hondahoon]

No sir, my guns are fit:p The screw tightens into the tube I showed there. The the bar end cranks down with the screw. Once I tighten it the whole dam thing turns inside the bar. That is why the bar end turns even thou the screw is tight. Yours may get worse like mine. With vibration it stars to back out. I think the rubber end in the pic is suppose to grip the inside?:weirdface: Hell Im going to the stealership tomorrow, see what they say. Bet you end up with the same thing. I have been dealing with this for a while.

they are bar tube weights... pull them out .. throw em away & put weighted bar ends on :)

HH

[Radical Rich]

HH, that is what my bar ends screw into. Am I missing something? Not sure how to put some on without them. Maybe 07 is different.:confused2:

[Snotty Scotty]

Not hijacking the thread but this is a related question. I'm trying to replace the stock bars ends on my 2009 Repsol with a set from Yoshiruma. The manual say "remove the screw". However, when I turn the screw the bar end also turns and it doesn't feel like the screw is getting looser.:mad: My question is: is the bar end not supposed to rotate as you remove the screw. If so then I can work on that assumption, or is the bar end supposed to rotate as you unscrew the screw? :confused2:As usual the manual is worthless.:(
Any help is appreciated.

[MogNo1]

Well I'd suggest the 09 would be no different to the 07 at question in this thread or the 05 for that matter! Removing the bar end is as simple as removing the screw, bar end pops out and then you can rescrew back in the Yoshi bar end! Done! Good choice on the Yoshi bar ends though....thats what I have! :cool: With mine even with the screw tighten up as tight as a budgies dait hole the bar end can still rotate to some degree and since the screw is screwed in tight.....it also rotates with the bar end so its whatever the bar end secures on inside the bar which is rotating! I'd suggest holding onto the bar end and keep it secure and not rotating then unscrew the bolt in the end of it! It initually might be screwed in there fairly tight so i hope you dont have girly arms! :rolleyes: Goodluck and hopefully that will sort you out! Post some pics of the Yoshi's when you get them on! :D

[Snotty Scotty]

If you have removed the bar end then you would know: does the screw screw into something within the handle bars that does not rotate or if the screw just squeezes a rubber piece that thickens to hold the bar end in. I agree that the other years are probably the same.

If it is the latter then holding the bar end while unscrewing is the answer otherwise holding the bar end may damage something. Hate to be anal and your suggestion is probably right but maybe you know the answer to the question above.
By the way the Yoshimura bar end is not symmetrical on the end that goes into the handle but has a smei circular wedge.

When I get it together I will post pictures.

[MogNo1]

Your right to be cautious, I would be also with my bike! On the 07 the bolt screws into the bar...there is no rubber grommet on the bar end that opens out inside the bar tube to hold the bar end on! I know you can get replacement bar ends like that but the stock one isnt. Essentually what you pull off is exactly what you'll be holding in your hand with the Yoshi and putting back on! As long as your unscrewing the bolt (anticlockwise) even if it was either option....rubber grommet secured or female thread inside the tube you'd still be unscrewing it....can't see how it could be damaged! Hold the bar end and give it a go unscrewing that bolt....you will be fine!

[Snotty Scotty]

Thanks, good reply. It makes sense that the Yoshi one would look like the Honda one. Therefore I should let the bar end rotate as I unscrew the bolt.

Upon trying this no progress is made, the bar end does not get any further out as I unscrew the screw. This makes me want to scream at the idiots that wrote the manual, the idiots that designed the bar ends and Honda in general. I know that holding the bar end is going to result in either the stock bar end gets damaged or the screw gets stripped. It seems that I can not even do the simplest thing on this bike, I have worked on dozens of bikes before without a problem. It's just that I don't like working blind and that's what the manual leaves one to do. Honda you suck.

OK, I feel better now.

[MogNo1]

Thanks, good reply. It makes sense that the Yoshi one would look like the Honda one. Therefore I should let the bar end rotate as I unscrew the bolt.

Upon trying this no progress is made, the bar end does not get any further out as I unscrew the screw. This makes me want to scream at the idiots that wrote the manual, the idiots that designed the bar ends and Honda in general. I know that holding the bar end is going to result in either the stock bar end gets damaged or the screw gets stripped. It seems that I can not even do the simplest thing on this bike, I have worked on dozens of bikes before without a problem. It's just that I don't like working blind and that's what the manual leaves one to do. Honda you suck.

OK, I feel better now.

No no no......you keep the stock bar end still in one possition.....don't let it rotate! Look at the Yoshi.....there is no thread inside of it for the bolt to grab on......its freely movinging inside the bar end! Hold the stock one in there...not leeting it come out and the screw will back out to a point where it can be removed altogether! Really its pretty easy and I'm sure when you work it out you'll kick yourself!

[Snotty Scotty]

Your reply implies that there is indeed a rubber piece that gets thicker as the screw is tightened. I will try holding the bar end (it really takes two people because I need both hands to turn the screw without the screw driver slipping out of the hole). I will she if my wife will come to the recue. This is why this part should have a hex fitting and a not philiips screw. Stay tuned and I will let you know the out come.

[MogNo1]

No rubber grommet mate....there is a female thread inside the bar tube the bolt screws into......got pictures I took for a question with someone else.......

[MogNo1]

:confused2: Actually maybe there is a gromet up inside the bar end....who knows! LOL Never had it out and like I said....all you do is unscrew the screw and your done! No need to overcomplicate things!

[Snotty Scotty]

OK, holding the bar end (wife did that) and then unscrewing the screw worked. There was some glue and lock tight on the screw. Inside the bar is a metal piece that must have been rotating as I rotated the bar end. I think that on the other end of the metal piece there must be a rubber gromet that swells as the screw is tightened.

I really thank you for the help. This forum is great when you can have an antipodean come to your help. Since it's about 8PM here it must be about 8AM there. I see your pictures and will post some of my own when I get the bar ends in. It's very funny but I also have the red levers to put on.

[MogNo1]

Its actually 12:30pm.....just gone midday but its raining cats and dogs here so I'm rugged up inside for the day! :D Yeah initually I thought red might have been alittle overpowering since every other member seemed to go with Repsol Blue! But doing something different I went with the Red on the bike with not just levers and bar ends but also red reservoirs, preload adjusters, fuel cap, rotor carriers, braded lines.....red everywhere.....looks great I think! :D Post some pictures up with the new ends on!

[Snotty Scotty]

I thought Australia was almost exactly on the opposite side of the earth from the US that's why I called you an antipodean. Seems to me that would put your clock 12 hours off of mine +-4 hours because of the time zones. Is Adelaide on the East side of Australia and Oakhurst is on the West side of the US. How may times zones does Australia have?

[MogNo1]

I thought Australia was almost exactly on the opposite side of the earth from the US that's why I called you an antipodean. Seems to me that would put your clock 12 hours off of mine +-4 hours because of the time zones. Is Adelaide on the East side of Australia and Oakhurst is on the West side of the US. How may times zones does Australia have?


Adelaide is on the central southern coast...there are 3 times zones......Western....central......Eastern! Eastern is about 0.5 hours ahead of us here and Western timezone is about 1.5 hours behind.....all depends on daylight savings it can all get changed about but normally its around that all year round!

[Radical Rich]

I have been trying to tell you ding dongs that it's a stupid flaw. Im on my 3rd pair of grips/ends. Seems the only thing that works well is the OEM set up:confused:

[MogNo1]

Ive not had issues with mine coming loose.....maybe your the ding dong! LOL :p Did you try locktighting the bolt in? Like Scott found on on his 09 just now its locktighted in so it won't loosen!

[HondaRepsol07]

Its actually 12:30pm.....just gone midday but its raining cats and dogs here so I'm rugged up inside for the day! :D Yeah initually I thought red might have been alittle overpowering since every other member seemed to go with Repsol Blue! But doing something different I went with the Red on the bike with not just levers and bar ends but also red reservoirs, preload adjusters, fuel cap, rotor carriers, braded lines.....red everywhere.....looks great I think! :D Post some pictures up with the new ends on!

Yep red definitely looks the goods! Glad you got it all sorted Snotty, Alex has a knack of making stuff sound easy (even though the risk of destruction is high), and yep I reckon that's a grommet inside the recess which doesn't come out (pain in the arse when redoing tape on bicycle handlebars as you gotta hold the tape inside the recess as well as get the bar end back in the grommet).

[MogNo1]

Yep red definitely looks the goods! Glad you got it all sorted Snotty, Alex has a knack of making stuff sound easy (even though the risk of destruction is high), and yep I reckon that's a grommet inside the recess which doesn't come out (pain in the arse when redoing tape on bicycle handlebars as you gotta hold the tape inside the recess as well as get the bar end back in the grommet).

Well I'm sure the gromet would come out....somehow.....guess thats the thing which is causing some of the issues with peoples bar ends rotating! In the end its only a problem rotating if your bar ends start to disappear on you, which they seem to be with Rich.....think locktight will fix that though!

[Snotty Scotty]

The original setup has some lock tite (or something) on the screw threads. RR did you use some on the replacements?

[Snotty Scotty]

My bar ends are just a tat off extending the same length from the bars. I'm going to remove the bar end and see if I can tap the metal peice into the handle bar a little to even it out. Then when I put it back together I will use some blue lock tite. I will let you know if the metal piece can be moved further into the bar.

[MikeR]

locktight or any type of ruber glue - then tighten after it has set.

[Radical Rich]

I will be doing something asap. I finally find grips I like and the fn left bar end is loose/ hanging off some. Driving me nut's. If I had to do it over again I may have stayed stock. Dammit. I will never give up though. Just super annoying!!!!

[HondaRepsol07]

I will be doing something asap. I finally find grips I like and the fn left bar end is loose/ hanging off some. Driving me nut's. If I had to do it over again I may have stayed stock. Dammit. I will never give up though. Just super annoying!!!!

I heard along the grapevine that you got Rizoma grips? I'm pretty keen on them also, but I've heard the fit is a little sloppy even with the supplied chocks?

[MogNo1]

I heard along the grapevine that you got Rizoma grips? I'm pretty keen on them also, but I've heard the fit is a little sloppy even with the supplied chocks?

You do realise Scott it also says in Rich's signiture he has them? Although his is so long its like reading a novel....by the time you get to the end of it....it all becomes a blur! :rolleyes:

[HondaRepsol07]

You do realise Scott it also says in Rich's signiture he has them? Although his is so long its like reading a novel....by the time you get to the end of it....it all becomes a blur! :rolleyes:

I did notice that afterwards....But you gotta give me 10/10 for remembering! :p

[MogNo1]

I did notice that afterwards....But you gotta give me 10/10 for remembering! :p

Hmmm.....more of a C- from me......Id be the sort of teacher that wants some "extra effort" for an A+! LOL :rolleyes:

[HondaRepsol07]

Hmmm.....more of a C- from me......Id be the sort of teacher that wants some "extra effort" for an A+! LOL :rolleyes:

He sure does have some nice mods in his signature! And it definitely becomes a blur :p

[MogNo1]

He sure does have some nice mods in his signature! And it definitely becomes a blur :p

Yeah Rich has some good taste......but I have more! LOL :rolleyes:

[Radical Rich]

News flash. I replaced the Rizoma's with some new rubber grips. I love the look of the Rizoma but I found it alot harder to hang on under very hard acceleration:eek: My gloves would be out on the metal part and was slippery. Got scary couple times. And I am working on the bar end issue again:mad: I will not stop till it's right.

[HondaRepsol07]

News flash. I replaced the Rizoma's with some new rubber grips. I love the look of the Rizoma but I found it alot harder to hang on under very hard acceleration:eek: My gloves would be out on the metal part and was slippery. Got scary couple times. And I am working on the bar end issue again:mad: I will not stop till it's right.

Hmmm...Might steer clear of them then Rich. Thanks for the update! They sure do look sweet though!

[MogNo1]

Hmmm...Might steer clear of them then Rich. Thanks for the update! They sure do look sweet though!

Gel Progrips.....I have them.....a set cost under $20......cheap bling bling! :evilgrin:

[Snotty Scotty]

Here is my bar ends and levers

[HondaRepsol07]

Here is my bar ends and levers

Looks great!! You have similar colour tastes to the Mog. You should check out his gallery and his Pro Grips :D They really set off the levers.

[risingson05]

you know I had this similar problem ,well not coming off.I bought neew bar ends and they didi not have enough length to hold secure I tried tightening it but it pinched my throttle made it sticky so it would not return back by itself so I put the old one back on.Now its funny its all the way tight but if I push the bar end it makes my throttle stick so I leave it alone and not push it inn

[Radical Rich]

Now looking back, I believe that is 1 mod I would have skipped. Keep stock grips and ends. To much BS and money and still not better than stock Imo. I may start from scratch and go OEM.

[HondaRepsol07]

Now looking back, I believe that is 1 mod I would have skipped. Keep stock grips and ends. To much BS and money and still not better than stock Imo. I may start from scratch and go OEM.

Yep, I'm thinking along the same lines Rich. Might just go the shorty's and leave the grips and ends OEM. Then I can put the money towards crack .......Kidding :evilgrin:

[skycity]

Rich....think I have a similar thing happening to you but my Yoshi bar ends have never come loose! One bar end will rotate a whole 360 degrees where as the other only slighty can be rotated in either direction! They aren't loose in there resonably stiff but you can rotate them without popping a hernia! My screw holding them in is still tight as a budgies backside though (Aussie speak)! :D I gather your screw is somehow loosening up? Maybe you need some muscles on those girly arms when you do the screw up?:evilgrin: Possibly putting abit of locktight on the screw thread so when you do your bolt up again it'll stay screwed tight? Just a thought mate!:rolleyes:

Hi there!
Seems like you are the only well oriented person when it comes to details in installing and removing bar end/weights. I got an '09 and wanna install non marking handle grips but i dont seem to have any luck taking off the end bars. the have a phillips screwdriver screws but when i try loosen them the whole bar including screw turns. which result in basically nothing, i cant loosen the screw at all. Any ideas how should i deal with it? thank you.

[TigreST]

The stock bar end weight (shown as #9 in the micro fiche attachment) is indexed to the end of the vibe damper (shown as #8) that resides inside the handle bar. You may need to grip the bar end weight to stop it from turning and then lean into the screw driver to break the screw loose from the internal vibe damper. The attached picture shows this indexing "half notch" that is cut into the bar end weight and the end of the internal vibe damper...A little harder to see on the vibe damper. This seems to be standard practice for many/most of the stock bar end weight installs as done by Honda. Second attachment shows my 1998 Super Blackbird stock bar end weight install during a Vista Cruise install. I had to space the bar end away from the throttle sleeve because the Vista Cruise moved the throttle grip outboard the thickness of the Vista Cruise unit. Rather then alter to much I opted to just make a spacer of like indexed design to space the bar end out to give clearance to the handle grip. Also attached is a close up of the internal vibe damper unit...you can see the notch in the end of it if you look close. An easy means to hold the bar end weight while you turn the screw is a pipe wrench,..yes this will trash the bar end weight. A second idea is to use a strap wrench as you might for oil filter removal, I have a rubber belt version of this strap wrench that might get this job done without damage to the bar end weight. Hope this helps

Tony

[paul13131313]

Yea,found bar end screw backed out halfway as I was leaving work.Tightened it up with handle of pocket nail clipper and grip of fingers(human strap wrench).Went straight to shop where mechnic removed and replaced with locktight.He was suprised how tight the screw was.It fell off a week later,and with me complaining to mechnic about not enough locktight and his complaint of more than enough applied,when the replacement arrived with barely an eighth of an inch wide stripe,we both concluded to locktight both screws with much more.They're still on.Yea,a honda quirk.More by me at "what do you hate about your 09".I love my motorcycle.I hate parts falling off.It's not a v-twin! Another situation came to mind:did the bar end bounce very high when it fell off?!?!?!

[MogNo1]

Hi there!
Seems like you are the only well oriented person when it comes to details in installing and removing bar end/weights. I got an '09 and wanna install non marking handle grips but i dont seem to have any luck taking off the end bars. the have a phillips screwdriver screws but when i try loosen them the whole bar including screw turns. which result in basically nothing, i cant loosen the screw at all. Any ideas how should i deal with it? thank you.


As Tony suggested hold the bar ends in position and then undo the screw! I think initually cracking the screw loose will be the hard part and then smooth sailing from there! Good luck!

[Sasser]

As Tony suggested hold the bar ends in position and then undo the screw! I think initually cracking the screw loose will be the hard part and then smooth sailing from there! Good luck!

Easier said then done Donkey...just cause your bike is in shambles all the time, doesn't make it smooth sailing lol... :rolleyes:

:stupid: Good luck! ;)